cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Jun 2, 2022 13:15:49 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-61495337Deputy of Grouville and St Martin (three seats) Rose Binet Guy de Faye Carolyn Labey Philip Le Claire (Jersey Alliance) Steve Luce (Progress Party) Piers Sangan Deputy of St Brelade (four seats) Steve Bailey (Progress Party) Karl Busch James Corbett (Jersey Alliance) Nigel Jones (Reform Jersey) Helen Miles Steve Pallett (Progress Party) Jonathan Renouf Moz Scott Montfort Tadier (Reform Jersey) Deputy of St Clement (four seats) Ken Addison (Reform Jersey) Lindsay Ash (Jersey Alliance) Philip Bailhache (Jersey Liberal Conservatives) Mark Boleat (Jersey Alliance) Alex Curtis Barbara Ward Karen Wilson Deputy of St Helier North (four seats) Steve Ahier Max Andrews Inna Gardiner Mary Le Hegarat Trevor Pointon (Reform Jersey) Phil Romeril (Jersey Alliance) Ted Vibert (Jersey Alliance) Deputy of St Helier Central (five seats) Carina Alves (Reform Jersey) John Baker Catherine Curtis (Reform Jersey) Lyndsay Feltham (Reform Jersey) Neil Kilbey Geoff Southern (Reform Jersey) Chris Tanguy (Jersey Alliance) Julie Wallman (Jersey Liberal Conservatives) Rob Ward (Reform Jersey) Deputy of St Helier South (four seats) Tom Coles (Reform Jersey) Chris Hopkins Angela Jeune (Jersey Liberal Conservatives) Russell Labey Nick Le Cornu Jo Luce (Jersey Alliance) Bernie Manning Judy Martin Sam Mezec (Reform Jersey) Beatriz Poree (Reform Jersey) David Warr Deputy of St John, St Lawrence and Trinity (four seats) Gregory Guida (Jersey Alliance) Andy Howell Hilary Jeune John Le Fondre (Jersey Alliance) Elaine Millar Kirsten Morel Hugh Raymond (Jersey Alliance) Mary Venturini Deputy of St Mary, St Ouen and St Peter (four seats) David Benn (Jersey Liberal Conservatives) Helen Evans (Reform Jersey) Lyndon Farnham Ian Gorst Rowland Huelin (Jersey Alliance) Kristina Moore Lucy Stephenson Deputy of St Saviour (five seats) Tom Binet Jonathan Channing Lee Cornick Louise Doublet Malcolm Ferey (Jersey Liberal Conservatives) Raluca Kovacs (Reform Jersey) Jeremy Macon Mary O'Keeffe (Jersey Alliance) Philip Ozouf Kevin Pamplin Sophie Walton (Progress Party) Suzanne Webb Connétable of Grouville (one seat) Sarah Howard Mark Labey Connétable of St Brelade (one seat) Mike Jackson Connétable of St Clement (one seat) Marcus Troy Connétable of St Helier (one seat) Simon Crowcroft Mark Le Chevalier Connétable of St John (one seat) Andy Jehan Connétable of St Lawrence (one seat) Emily Joseph Deidre Mezbourian Connétable of St Martin (one seat) Karen Shenton-Stone Connétable of St Mary (one seat) Mark Baker Mike Fennell David Johnson Connétable of St Ouen (one seat) Richard Honeycombe Connétable of St Peter (one seat) Richard Vibert Connétable of St Saviour (one seat) Kevin Lewis Connétable of Trinity (one seat) Philip Le Sueur (Jersey Alliance)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 23:16:45 GMT
The Conservative Liberals are exactly what they sound like, essentially Tories. Jersey Alliance are also centre-right and the Progress Party are officially centrist but in a pre-election arrangement with Jersey Alliance.
Reform Jersey are social Democrats, essentially a Jersey labour party
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 3, 2022 23:59:14 GMT
The Conservative Liberals are exactly what they sound like, essentially Tories. Jersey Alliance are also centre-right and the Progress Party are officially centrist but in a pre-election arrangement with Jersey Alliance. Splitters!  |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 24, 2022 5:34:06 GMT
Another big victory for Labour (well, on a far lower level...):   |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jun 24, 2022 5:53:35 GMT
Managing to double your seats, whilst nearly halving your vote is a neat trick.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 25, 2022 4:20:05 GMT
Managing to double your seats, whilst nearly halving your vote is a neat trick. According to Wikipedia they gained some 2.3% (from roughly 10% last time). Provisorical seatMap:  |
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Post by matureleft on Jun 25, 2022 5:56:43 GMT
The BBC published some detailed results. From this it seems that Reform Jersey concentrated on a couple of multi-seat opportunities in St Helier, winning 8 of the 9 places in those with a very disciplined first-past-the-post performance. They left much of the rest of the island alone. My one visit to Jersey yielded the unsurprising insight that a place of considerable affluence requires a lot of people who are much less so to make them comfortable. I've not seen as many "poundshop" type retail outlets in a fairly small space as I saw in St Helier. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-61880331 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 6:09:31 GMT
A "Jersey" seat at Westminster would obviously be safely Conservative but it looks like a hypothetical "St Helier" seat would be a lot more interesting
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 26, 2022 22:56:10 GMT
Deputies:  Connétables:  |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jun 28, 2022 15:50:08 GMT
A "Jersey" seat at Westminster would obviously be safely Conservative but it looks like a hypothetical "St Helier" seat would be a lot more interesting If they lost their Crown dependency status, you could split Jersey into a St Helier seat (consisting of St Helier, St Saviour, St Clement, Grouville, St Martin, Trinity, St Lawrence and St John parishes) and a Guernsey + Jersey West seat (the Bailiwick has 67k residents, plus the remaining parishes on Jersey. You may swap a few parishes around because the former would be around 72k population, probably 60k residents and the 2nd 88k population, probably around 70k electorate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 16:24:50 GMT
A "Jersey" seat at Westminster would obviously be safely Conservative but it looks like a hypothetical "St Helier" seat would be a lot more interesting If they lost their Crown dependency status, you could split Jersey into a St Helier seat (consisting of St Helier, St Saviour, St Clement, Grouville, St Martin, Trinity, St Lawrence and St John parishes) and a Guernsey + Jersey West seat (the Bailiwick has 67k residents, plus the remaining parishes on Jersey. You may swap a few parishes around because the former would be around 72k population, probably 60k residents and the 2nd 88k population, probably around 70k electorate. I mean if we can have legally protected seats for the IoW and Anglesey we can have them for the Channel Islands. And merging Guernsey and Jersey would be an absolute very definite no |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 28, 2022 16:28:32 GMT
A "Jersey" seat at Westminster would obviously be safely Conservative but it looks like a hypothetical "St Helier" seat would be a lot more interesting If they lost their Crown dependency status, you could split Jersey into a St Helier seat (consisting of St Helier, St Saviour, St Clement, Grouville, St Martin, Trinity, St Lawrence and St John parishes) and a Guernsey + Jersey West seat (the Bailiwick has 67k residents, plus the remaining parishes on Jersey. You may swap a few parishes around because the former would be around 72k population, probably 60k residents and the 2nd 88k population, probably around 70k electorate. With such a fiddly split-island arrangement, I think there's a strong case for a two-member seat encompassing both (all) the islands. |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jun 28, 2022 16:31:18 GMT
If they lost their Crown dependency status, you could split Jersey into a St Helier seat (consisting of St Helier, St Saviour, St Clement, Grouville, St Martin, Trinity, St Lawrence and St John parishes) and a Guernsey + Jersey West seat (the Bailiwick has 67k residents, plus the remaining parishes on Jersey. You may swap a few parishes around because the former would be around 72k population, probably 60k residents and the 2nd 88k population, probably around 70k electorate. I mean if we can have legally protected seats for the IoW and Anglesey we can have them for the Channel Islands. And merging Guernsey and Jersey would be an absolute very definite no I know it would be a pitchfork move, but it would also be absolutely hilarious. |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jun 28, 2022 16:34:17 GMT
If they lost their Crown dependency status, you could split Jersey into a St Helier seat (consisting of St Helier, St Saviour, St Clement, Grouville, St Martin, Trinity, St Lawrence and St John parishes) and a Guernsey + Jersey West seat (the Bailiwick has 67k residents, plus the remaining parishes on Jersey. You may swap a few parishes around because the former would be around 72k population, probably 60k residents and the 2nd 88k population, probably around 70k electorate. With such a fiddly split-island arrangement, I think there's a strong case for a two-member seat encompassing both (all) the islands. 2 member seats would be quite weird and difficult with FPTP given the myriad political parties and variety of indies on the CIs though. |
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Post by cibwr on Jun 28, 2022 16:38:04 GMT
I suspect they would declare full independence rather than be incorporated into the UK!
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Post by peterl on Jun 28, 2022 17:00:20 GMT
One seat for Jersey and one covering both Guernsey and the other Channel Islands would seem the logical option.
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Post by where2travel on Jun 28, 2022 20:18:44 GMT
One seat for Jersey and one covering both Guernsey and the other Channel Islands would seem the logical option. Yes, especially as the other islands are part of the Bailiwick of Guernsey (Sark and Alderney) or administered by Guernsey (Herm), so naturally sit well together. Off topic, but I returned yesterday from another trip to the Channel Islands and made it to Herm this time too as part of an overnight stop from Guernsey (it's only 15 minutes by boat). A lovely little island (like Sark it has no cars, but it's small enough that you don't need any transport just to visit). |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 29, 2022 0:10:25 GMT
A "Jersey" seat at Westminster would obviously be safely Conservative but it looks like a hypothetical "St Helier" seat would be a lot more interesting If they lost their Crown dependency status, you could split Jersey into a St Helier seat (consisting of St Helier, St Saviour, St Clement, Grouville, St Martin, Trinity, St Lawrence and St John parishes) and a Guernsey + Jersey West seat (the Bailiwick has 67k residents, plus the remaining parishes on Jersey. You may swap a few parishes around because the former would be around 72k population, probably 60k residents and the 2nd 88k population, probably around 70k electorate. What on Earth possesses you to imagine that the Channel Islands, if incorporated into the UK, would have constituencies straddling across from Jersey to Guernsey? Obviously there would be one constituency for Jersey, and one for Guernsey & the other bits. |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jun 29, 2022 14:45:59 GMT
If they lost their Crown dependency status, you could split Jersey into a St Helier seat (consisting of St Helier, St Saviour, St Clement, Grouville, St Martin, Trinity, St Lawrence and St John parishes) and a Guernsey + Jersey West seat (the Bailiwick has 67k residents, plus the remaining parishes on Jersey. You may swap a few parishes around because the former would be around 72k population, probably 60k residents and the 2nd 88k population, probably around 70k electorate. What on Earth possesses you to imagine that the Channel Islands, if incorporated into the UK, would have constituencies straddling across from Jersey to Guernsey? Obviously there would be one constituency for Jersey, and one for Guernsey & the other bits. The Jersey one would be massively over quota. Under representation to preserve geographically and culturally sensible constituencies is a common phenomenon here, but not over representation. If you split Jersey into West/East and left Guernsey as one, it would further damage the idea of one national parliamentary quota and probably make expansion of parliament necessary, otherwise Wales and some of the less populated regions would throw a huge fit over losing constituencies while peripheral regions gain under quota seats. Of course, this is all hypothetical, but a mixed IRV/STV system would help in that situation as proposed by J.G. Harston. |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jun 29, 2022 14:48:12 GMT
I suspect they would declare full independence rather than be incorporated into the UK! Mmm, when those juicy tax haven loopholes eventually close for the Channel Islands, they may just change their minds! |
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