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Post by carolus on Apr 7, 2023 23:26:05 GMT
I don't think that's true. Councillors remain councillors until the Monday after the election at which their term ends. That fact had some bearing on my comment! |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 8, 2023 0:20:27 GMT
Extreme alt.woke bollocks. I agree with her. She should have stood her ground as there may well be a majority who agree with her. The sheer bloody brass neck of these arseholes with their poxy policies and mimsy stupid political correctness 'courses'. More if us should stand up for the freedom to express what we believe and tell these nerks to sod off and mind their own bloody business. It is acceptable for her to express her opinion, including when or if that opinion is peculiar or extreme or offensive to many people, but if she is factually wrong on a matter of fact then she should be held accountable for it. The Pride flag is of course not a “sex flag” but a sexual orientation flag. |
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Post by carolus on Apr 16, 2023 20:11:44 GMT
North Kesteven, Bililnghay, Martin & North Kyme. Amanda Sanderson (Conservative) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not standing in May.
Thanet, Salmestone. Pauline Farrance (Independent) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not standing in May.
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Post by carolus on Apr 18, 2023 19:52:10 GMT
West Suffolk, Moreton Hall. Trevor Beckwith (Independent) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection. Not standing in May.
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Post by listener on Apr 21, 2023 13:45:54 GMT
The electoral timetable for this year stipulated that Tuesday, 18 April, was the deadline for receiving new postal vote and new postal proxy applications.
Is there any statutory guidance on the timescale for delivering postal votes to electors' addresses? Could it be as short as a week before polling day?
David Boothroyd - do you know?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 21, 2023 13:49:48 GMT
The electoral timetable for this year stipulated that Tuesday, 18 April, was the deadline for receiving new postal vote and new postal proxy applications. Is there any statutory guidance on the timescale for delivering postal votes to electors' addresses? Could it be as short as a week before polling day? David Boothroyd - do you know? Postal votes must be issued "as soon as practicable" - Regulation 71(2), Representation of the People (England and Wales) Regulations 2001. |
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Post by ricmk on Apr 21, 2023 13:51:33 GMT
The electoral timetable for this year stipulated that Tuesday, 18 April, was the deadline for receiving new postal vote and new postal proxy applications. Is there any statutory guidance on the timescale for delivering postal votes to electors' addresses? Could it be as short as a week before polling day? David Boothroyd - do you know? I don't see how there could be. Addresses may be abroad and that's at the vagaries of postal services in other countries for when mail gets delivered - so how could a local authority be held statutorily responsible for this? FWIW I was a non-voter at my first ever general election where I could vote, my postal vote arrived in Poland the day after the result was declared. I think it was the most marginal result in the country..... |
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 22, 2023 11:45:17 GMT
A local authority can't control when they arrive but greater consistency on when they're sent would be welcome. I have seen a growing number of cases of people applying for postal votes before they go away and come the day of departure their pack hasn't arrived yet their social media shows many others voting.
Overseas postal votes are already a mess and only going to get worse as the number increases whilst postal services globally continue to contract. Domestically shrinking numbers of deliveries and collections are also starting to bite. At some point someone is going to have to admit the timetable is unworkable.
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Post by grahammurray on Apr 23, 2023 12:20:02 GMT
A local authority can't control when they arrive but greater consistency on when they're sent would be welcome. I have seen a growing number of cases of people applying for postal votes before they go away and come the day of departure their pack hasn't arrived yet their social media shows many others voting. Overseas postal votes are already a mess and only going to get worse as the number increases whilst postal services globally continue to contract. Domestically shrinking numbers of deliveries and collections are also starting to bite. At some point someone is going to have to admit the timetable is unworkable. There are perfectly valid reasons why the arrival date for postal votes isn't set in stone. |
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 23, 2023 13:05:16 GMT
My postal vote still hasn't arrived. Eileen's on the other hand has come and is already completed and back in the post. Reinforces the point about the vagaries of the post - the two polling cards arrived together, and I would expect the two voting packs to arrive together, but no. If its not here tomorrow, I might just check with the electoral registration office. It might of course have finished being posted through a neighbour's door in error.
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 23, 2023 14:11:36 GMT
My postal vote still hasn't arrived. Eileen's on the other hand has come and is already completed and back in the post. Reinforces the point about the vagaries of the post - the two polling cards arrived together, and I would expect the two voting packs to arrive together, but no. If its not here tomorrow, I might just check with the electoral registration office. It might of course have finished being posted through a neighbour's door in error. I don’t know if your council’s the same, but ours uses its own staff to deliver polling cards, one of my mum’s carers has apparently done over 8000 around where she lives, and, going back in the dark, distant past, both my grandad and dad used to deliver them. (Our postal votes did arrive together). |
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 23, 2023 17:15:49 GMT
My postal vote still hasn't arrived. Eileen's on the other hand has come and is already completed and back in the post. Reinforces the point about the vagaries of the post - the two polling cards arrived together, and I would expect the two voting packs to arrive together, but no. If its not here tomorrow, I might just check with the electoral registration office. It might of course have finished being posted through a neighbour's door in error. I don’t know if your council’s the same, but ours uses its own staff to deliver polling cards, one of my mum’s carers has apparently done over 8000 around where she lives, and, going back in the dark, distant past, both my grandad and dad used to deliver them. (Our postal votes did arrive together). I'm pretty sure our polling cards were posted. Getting staff to hand deliver them might work in urban areas, but I would think totally impractical in a spread out rural one. |
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Post by carolus on Apr 24, 2023 16:22:34 GMT
Maidstone, North (2023). Robert Eves (Conservative) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not restanding.
Teignbridge, Ashburton & Buckfastleigh. Sarah Khan (Conservative) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not restanding.
Wyre, Pharos. Collette Fairbanks (Wyre Alliance, elected as UKIP) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not restanding.
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Post by carolus on Apr 25, 2023 13:36:40 GMT
North East Derbyshire, Dronfield South. Alan Powell (Conservative) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not restanding.
North East Derbyshire, North Wingfield Central. Jeff Lilley (Labour) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not restanding.
Teignbridge, Teignmouth Central. Jacqui Orme (Independent) has ceased to be a councillor. No byelection, and not restanding.
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 25, 2023 14:12:50 GMT
My postal vote still hasn't arrived. Eileen's on the other hand has come and is already completed and back in the post. Reinforces the point about the vagaries of the post - the two polling cards arrived together, and I would expect the two voting packs to arrive together, but no. If its not here tomorrow, I might just check with the electoral registration office. It might of course have finished being posted through a neighbour's door in error. I don’t know if your council’s the same, but ours uses its own staff to deliver polling cards, one of my mum’s carers has apparently done over 8000 around where she lives, and, going back in the dark, distant past, both my grandad and dad used to deliver them. (Our postal votes did arrive together). Our council does the same with polling cards. Which I only know because I once happened to be delivering the same street as they were. Can't comment much on postal vote dates, since I don't have one this year. I'm half hoping to be a victim of the new voter ID laws, since my passport photo has my lockdown beard rather than my smaller regular beard, I don't live in a Green target ward, and "councillor denied vote" would make for a nice headline in the local press. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 19:23:09 GMT
Incidentally, the Stroud by-election will be a really interesting one to watch. Given how close it was and everything that's happened in national politics since, the Greens will be dissappointed if they don't win it Labour have, if I remember correctly, reselected their candidate from the 2021 all outs, and there is a dedicated Facebook page for the candidate, which suggests they are making some effort |
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Post by jdc on Apr 28, 2023 8:25:01 GMT
Incidentally, the Stroud by-election will be a really interesting one to watch. Given how close it was and everything that's happened in national politics since, the Greens will be dissappointed if they don't win it Labour have, if I remember correctly, reselected their candidate from the 2021 all outs, and there is a dedicated Facebook page for the candidate, which suggests they are making some effort The hill to climb for the Conservatives to lose is higher than it might appear from a glance at the numbers, right? There's a big difference between a 3-member all-out ward with 3 Conservative, 2 Green, 1 Labour, as candidates and a close result, and a single by-election where Labour and Green are opposing each other?
Presumably a lot of voters in 2021 voted Labour-Labour-Green with ease, and now have to pick. So the swing required to take the seat is not so much the 5% (Green) or 10% (Labour) but rather each party's total needs to be slightly less than halved?
The Green candidate has consented to have their address on the ballot paper and it's in the ward. I always think this helps a bit at the margins. The Conservative is out of ward (though in the same county division) and Labour and Lib Dem are "Address in District".
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 28, 2023 9:42:26 GMT
Labour have, if I remember correctly, reselected their candidate from the 2021 all outs, and there is a dedicated Facebook page for the candidate, which suggests they are making some effort The hill to climb for the Conservatives to lose is higher than it might appear from a glance at the numbers, right? There's a big difference between a 3-member all-out ward with 3 Conservative, 2 Green, 1 Labour, as candidates and a close result, and a single by-election where Labour and Green are opposing each other?
Presumably a lot of voters in 2021 voted Labour-Labour-Green with ease, and now have to pick. So the swing required to take the seat is not so much the 5% (Green) or 10% (Labour) but rather each party's total needs to be slightly less than halved?
The Green candidate has consented to have their address on the ballot paper and it's in the ward. I always think this helps a bit at the margins. The Conservative is out of ward (though in the same county division) and Labour and Lib Dem are "Address in District".
Yes, basically - with the added LD as well. The bit about halving each party's vote becomes a bit guesswork though as it's really impossible to say how many who voted for both Grn and Lab would have preferred one or the other - it could be a 75-25 split one way or the other. In any event, to win one party will need to persuade the majority of those voters to vote for them, which is obviously much more difficult if both parties are making the argument... Will be an interesting one to watch. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 10:15:41 GMT
Labour have, if I remember correctly, reselected their candidate from the 2021 all outs, and there is a dedicated Facebook page for the candidate, which suggests they are making some effort The hill to climb for the Conservatives to lose is higher than it might appear from a glance at the numbers, right? There's a big difference between a 3-member all-out ward with 3 Conservative, 2 Green, 1 Labour, as candidates and a close result, and a single by-election where Labour and Green are opposing each other?
Presumably a lot of voters in 2021 voted Labour-Labour-Green with ease, and now have to pick. So the swing required to take the seat is not so much the 5% (Green) or 10% (Labour) but rather each party's total needs to be slightly less than halved?
The Green candidate has consented to have their address on the ballot paper and it's in the ward. I always think this helps a bit at the margins. The Conservative is out of ward (though in the same county division) and Labour and Lib Dem are "Address in District".
In addition to which, the "Upton" section of the seat is strongly Conservative and much less susceptible to the Greens than Painswick. Against that, however, is that the Tories' situation has deteriorated somewhat since 2021. I wonder if the, er, interesting situation with the administration will impact things as well. The Greens now run the council and can claim both the council's achievements for the last 10 years or so "Your Green-led council has done this...." and that they are showing leadership which might help them at the margins all round |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 10:18:38 GMT
The hill to climb for the Conservatives to lose is higher than it might appear from a glance at the numbers, right? There's a big difference between a 3-member all-out ward with 3 Conservative, 2 Green, 1 Labour, as candidates and a close result, and a single by-election where Labour and Green are opposing each other?
Presumably a lot of voters in 2021 voted Labour-Labour-Green with ease, and now have to pick. So the swing required to take the seat is not so much the 5% (Green) or 10% (Labour) but rather each party's total needs to be slightly less than halved?
The Green candidate has consented to have their address on the ballot paper and it's in the ward. I always think this helps a bit at the margins. The Conservative is out of ward (though in the same county division) and Labour and Lib Dem are "Address in District".
Yes, basically - with the added LD as well. The bit about halving each party's vote becomes a bit guesswork though as it's really impossible to say how many who voted for both Grn and Lab would have preferred one or the other - it could be a 75-25 split one way or the other. In any event, to win one party will need to persuade the majority of those voters to vote for them, which is obviously much more difficult if both parties are making the argument... Will be an interesting one to watch. However, there will have been a lot of crossover between those voting for the 2 Greens and the 1 Lab candidate last time. That the Greens finished on just over 1100 and Labour on just over 700 suggests an awful lot of people who happily voted Green were not happy to vote Labour, so having to choose between the two shouldn't affect those votes. It also suggests a) that the Greens have more support in the ward than Labour (not really surprising) and b) that a lot of those were Green voters (+1 Lab) rather than Labour voters (+1 Green). So, yes, it makes the task harder but not by as much as it first appears |
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