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Post by overthehill on Dec 14, 2021 22:25:38 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 14, 2021 22:30:56 GMT
No new thread here please.
There cannot be a byelection for the London Members of the London Assembly. If any resign they are replaced by the next available candidate from the list. If there are no more candidates the seat is left vacant. And Shaun Bailey has not resigned his seat (merely his chairmanship of a particular committee).
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Post by maxque on Dec 14, 2021 22:43:24 GMT
No new thread here please. There cannot be a byelection for the London Members of the London Assembly. If any resign they are replaced by the next available candidate from the list. If there are no more candidates the seat is left vacant. And Shaun Bailey has not resigned his seat (merely his chairmanship of a particular committee). The next one of the list is Selina Seesunkur, a councillor in Waltham Forest.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Dec 14, 2021 23:17:24 GMT
They're calling that "raucous"? Ok🤨. Sheltered peeps at the Mirror, that's for sure.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Dec 14, 2021 23:31:59 GMT
How a) thick, b) drunk or c) arrogant do you have to be to pose for a photo like that when you know the rest of the city / country is supposed to be in lockdown?
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Post by neilm on Dec 14, 2021 23:51:56 GMT
They're calling that "raucous"? Ok🤨. Sheltered peeps at the Mirror, that's for sure. It looks like a publicity shot for The Apprentice.
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 15, 2021 0:10:26 GMT
They're calling that "raucous"? Ok🤨. Sheltered peeps at the Mirror, that's for sure. Four staff at that party were disciplined for vandalism, so 'raucous' seems fair.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 15, 2021 14:11:24 GMT
How a) thick, b) drunk or c) arrogant do you have to be to pose for a photo like that when you know the rest of the city / country is supposed to be in lockdown? But we weren't were we? Britain needs to affect an Italian response to this sort of faff. Nod intelligently, agree, and ignore. Those sort of regulations should be considered indicative, aspirational, confirmatory and very ephemeral. The gibbering frit inclined may use them as an excuse to hold no parties, attend no parties and to pretend that there are no parties. The rest of us do what we like and pretend we are observing the regulations if asked. In Britain, we are far to rule bound and law observing. We are a nation of curtain-twitching nit pickers. Many of you on this Forum are ones such. You agonize over rules and laws and hypocrisy as if your little lives depended upon it. Let those to whom it is important observe and others tacitly ignore and evade. Life works better that way.
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 15, 2021 14:24:50 GMT
How a) thick, b) drunk or c) arrogant do you have to be to pose for a photo like that when you know the rest of the city / country is supposed to be in lockdown? But we weren't were we? Britain needs to affect an Italian response to this sort of faff. Nod intelligently, agree, and ignore. Those sort of regulations should be considered indicative, aspirational, confirmatory and very ephemeral. The gibbering frit inclined may use them as an excuse to hold no parties, attend no parties and to pretend that there are no parties. The rest of us do what we like and pretend we are observing the regulations if asked. In Britain, we are far to rule bound and law observing. We are a nation of curtain-twitching nit pickers. Many of you on this Forum are ones such. You agonize over rules and laws and hypocrisy as if your little lives depended upon it. Let those to whom it is important observe and others tacitly ignore and evade. Life works better that way. Thank you. That's quite a lengthy exposition of how thick, arrogant or drunk you need to be.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 15, 2021 14:35:01 GMT
But we weren't were we? Britain needs to affect an Italian response to this sort of faff. Nod intelligently, agree, and ignore. Those sort of regulations should be considered indicative, aspirational, confirmatory and very ephemeral. The gibbering frit inclined may use them as an excuse to hold no parties, attend no parties and to pretend that there are no parties. The rest of us do what we like and pretend we are observing the regulations if asked. In Britain, we are far to rule bound and law observing. We are a nation of curtain-twitching nit pickers. Many of you on this Forum are ones such. You agonize over rules and laws and hypocrisy as if your little lives depended upon it. Let those to whom it is important observe and others tacitly ignore and evade. Life works better that way. Thank you. That's quite a lengthy exposition of how thick, arrogant or drunk you need to be. It is nothing of the sort. It is my take on all rules and regulations and my perfectly honest and considered opinion. I have a perfect right to express such an opinion in a non-offensive manner and did so. You, in turn, are entitled to reject and confront that opinion politely and robustly. You are not entitled to abuse me and to slander me with untruths. I have made a formal protest at your breach of Forum protocols. Don't do that. Try to behave yourself.
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 15, 2021 14:41:32 GMT
Thank you. That's quite a lengthy exposition of how thick, arrogant or drunk you need to be. It is nothing of the sort. It is my take on all rules and regulations and my perfectly honest and considered opinion. I have a perfect tight to express such an opinion in a non-offensive manner and did so. You, in turn, are entitled to reject and confront that opinion politely and robustly. You are not entitled to abuse me and to slander me with untruths. I have made a formal protest at your breach of Forum protocols. Don't do that. Try to behave yourself. It is mild in comparion to the abuse and insults you dish out regularly.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 15, 2021 15:12:26 GMT
It is nothing of the sort. It is my take on all rules and regulations and my perfectly honest and considered opinion. I have a perfect tight to express such an opinion in a non-offensive manner and did so. You, in turn, are entitled to reject and confront that opinion politely and robustly. You are not entitled to abuse me and to slander me with untruths. I have made a formal protest at your breach of Forum protocols. Don't do that. Try to behave yourself. It is mild in comparion to the abuse and insults you dish out regularly. No I don't. You are abusive and insulting frequently. I merely say things with which you strongly disagree. As you are ill-educated and cannot cope with debate you stoop immediately to abuse. You are that type.
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 15, 2021 15:26:07 GMT
It is nothing of the sort. It is my take on all rules and regulations and my perfectly honest and considered opinion. I have a perfect tight to express such an opinion in a non-offensive manner and did so. You, in turn, are entitled to reject and confront that opinion politely and robustly. You are not entitled to abuse me and to slander me with untruths. I have made a formal protest at your breach of Forum protocols. Don't do that. Try to behave yourself. It is mild in comparion to the abuse and insults you dish out regularly. Rank hypocrisy again from Carlton.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 15, 2021 16:33:16 GMT
It is mild in comparion to the abuse and insults you dish out regularly. Rank hypocrisy again from Carlton. Seasons Greetings, dear friend.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Dec 15, 2021 22:06:50 GMT
How a) thick, b) drunk or c) arrogant do you have to be to pose for a photo like that when you know the rest of the city / country is supposed to be in lockdown? But we weren't were we? Britain needs to affect an Italian response to this sort of faff. Nod intelligently, agree, and ignore. Those sort of regulations should be considered indicative, aspirational, confirmatory and very ephemeral. The gibbering frit inclined may use them as an excuse to hold no parties, attend no parties and to pretend that there are no parties. The rest of us do what we like and pretend we are observing the regulations if asked. In Britain, we are far to rule bound and law observing. We are a nation of curtain-twitching nit pickers. Many of you on this Forum are ones such. You agonize over rules and laws and hypocrisy as if your little lives depended upon it. Let those to whom it is important observe and others tacitly ignore and evade. Life works better that way. Again, this is a ridiculous rule and it's telling more about the imcompetence of the various Westminster government who all failed to rewrite that piece of garbage not fit for purpose. On the contrary, it shows the incompetence of the party, the agent and the candidate. The law is the law and it is what it is and it is a well known fact. Resign first and submit candidature afterwards when not in a state of disqualification. What on earth could be simpler? Since we're talking about abject hypocrisy...
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Post by greenchristian on Dec 16, 2021 9:07:50 GMT
It is mild in comparion to the abuse and insults you dish out regularly. No I don't. You are abusive and insulting frequently. I merely say things with which you strongly disagree. As you are ill-educated and cannot cope with debate you stoop immediately to abuse. You are that type. Ah yes. One of those irregular verbs.
I merely say things with with you strongly disagree.
You are ill-educated and cannot cope with debate.
He regularly dishes out abuse and insults.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 16, 2021 10:31:07 GMT
No I don't. You are abusive and insulting frequently. I merely say things with which you strongly disagree. As you are ill-educated and cannot cope with debate you stoop immediately to abuse. You are that type. Ah yes. One of those irregular verbs.
I merely say things with with you strongly disagree.
You are ill-educated and cannot cope with debate.
He regularly dishes out abuse and insults.
Yes. Language is a tool (like many members if this Forum) for use by the proficient and the deserving, and those that work at it and care!
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 17, 2021 9:48:09 GMT
carlton43 we would agree that rules are for the blind obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men Where you are in error here is that you are characterising Shaun Bailey and his underlings as wise men when they are in fact fools Ah! But I did no such thing. I opined what any ordinary normal person would do, should do and expect to do, and the correct attitude to adopt. I did add that one did it privately and in pretence of, for both sides of the masked and the unmasked. Those in politics and otherwise high profile must adopt a different style of course and most certainly not take photographs! I never take photographs and I never have. I do not like being photographed. We live through the days of absolute madness so I am not astonished and frankly don't care. Bailey was a very bad choice of candidate indeed. But that is now usual for that party.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 17, 2021 14:26:24 GMT
Bailey was a very bad choice of candidate indeed. but he was black and everything Yes. A box ticking exercise and not a choice to reflect policy and aspiration and quality. In that it perfectly encapsulates the modern Conservative party, really from post-Thatcher and certainly from Cameron. It is all about presentation, surface, fashion and ticking alt.woke boxes, as it is in the BBC, multinationals, local government and the government. Is the person or this pseudo policy positioned to pass the acid tests of acceptability to the alt.woke opinion formers and intelligentsia? We may need actual blunt object trauma to correct this. It may happen, by pissing off the clubbers, the fans, the drinkers, the workers and everyone fully awake to the nonsense of lockdowns, to see how much the frit have stiffed them and their lives for two years, followed by some major violence. Something has got to give soon. And I am not and have not advocated such violence and would never be part of it, but I can see it looming.
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Post by sirbenjamin on Dec 30, 2021 14:42:23 GMT
Bailey was a very bad choice of candidate indeed. but he was black and everything He performed a fair bit better than expectations. He was never going to win, but then it's hard to imagine any Tory candidate winning London under those conditions. I'm not at all convinced he was a 'bad' candidate. An expendable one who was able to achieve a bit of damage limitation. Boy done alright. The reality is that there almost certainly won't be another Conservative Mayor of London until we've had a Labour government for long enough for it to become deeply unpopular (or something else radical happens like the Greater London boundary being extended).
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