US presidential candidates for 2024

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Mar 13, 2022 12:19:32 GMT @conservativeestimate said:

Mar 13, 2022 1:29:10 GMT @johnyorks said:

I’m not even sure Kamala Harris would win the Democratic nomination, let alone the election. She is so unpopular and poorly rated according to the polls.
If we’re looking specifically at senior members of the current administration for a *potential* nominee I think Anthony Blinken is more likely than Harris.

Imagine an AOC vs Harris primary.

The sparks would fly I imagine. They always do with AOC. I fear she would win as well.
Although I'm not sure if AOC would actually be old enough to run for President. That would presumably disqualify her as a running mate (and potential fill-in President) as well. 
Given the slightly moderated approach of Biden, I expect the activist base will push quite hard for a more 'radical' second-termer.

[jamesg]

Mar 13, 2022 12:37:29 GMT @johnyorks said:

Mar 13, 2022 12:19:32 GMT @conservativeestimate said:

Imagine an AOC vs Harris primary.

The sparks would fly I imagine. They always do with AOC. I fear she would win as well.
Although I'm not sure if AOC would actually be old enough to run for President. That would presumably disqualify her as a running mate (and potential fill-in President) as well. 
Given the slightly moderated approach of Biden, I expect the activist base will push quite hard for a more 'radical' second-termer.

AOC will be old enough. Its not the age you are as a candidate when you run, but when you take office: Jan 20th 2025 she will be 35 and three plus months.

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Mar 13, 2022 12:37:29 GMT @johnyorks said:

Mar 13, 2022 12:19:32 GMT @conservativeestimate said:

Imagine an AOC vs Harris primary.

The sparks would fly I imagine. They always do with AOC. I fear she would win as well.
Although I'm not sure if AOC would actually be old enough to run for President. That would presumably disqualify her as a running mate (and potential fill-in President) as well. 
Given the slightly moderated approach of Biden, I expect the activist base will push quite hard for a more 'radical' second-termer.

A House member defeating a sitting Vice President in a Presidential primary? Has that ever happened before?

[stb12]

Vice Presidents or recent Vice Presidents do typically seem to win primaries if they run, despite the limits of the role it comes with big exposure and name recognition

But I’d agree that Harris would struggle, there doesn’t seem to be much positivity surrounding her at all. Pence also would struggle to win a Republican primary now even if Trump isn’t running considering how their relationship soured

[Khunanup]

I have never expected Harris to win an open primary for the '24 Dem nominee (if Biden wants to do it again, he'd win the nomination comfortably despite everything) as her shortcomings were evident long before she became the VP nominee. To say I'm not a fan is an understatement, and that opinion appears to be very widespread where it matters, in the States.

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Mar 13, 2022 18:51:19 GMT Khunanup said:

I have never expected Harris to win an open primary for the '24 Dem nominee (if Biden wants to do it again, he'd win the nomination comfortably despite everything) as her shortcomings were evident long before she became the VP nominee. To say I'm not a fan is an understatement, and that opinion appears to be very widespread where it matters, in the States.

Why can't Kamala Harris win the Democratic primary if Hillary Clinton did?

[The Bishop]

Because she's an even less effective politician?

[CatholicLeft]

Mar 14, 2022 2:33:46 GMT @conservativeestimate said:

Mar 13, 2022 18:51:19 GMT Khunanup said:

I have never expected Harris to win an open primary for the '24 Dem nominee (if Biden wants to do it again, he'd win the nomination comfortably despite everything) as her shortcomings were evident long before she became the VP nominee. To say I'm not a fan is an understatement, and that opinion appears to be very widespread where it matters, in the States.

Why can't Kamala Harris win the Democratic primary if Hillary Clinton did?

Maybe she could, but she is a truly dreadful political tactician and performer, who appeaers to have no enthusiastic network of political operatives or supportees. Hillary Clinton certainly had the latter in the Democratic Party.

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Mar 14, 2022 9:42:16 GMT CatholicLeft said:

Mar 14, 2022 2:33:46 GMT @conservativeestimate said:

Why can't Kamala Harris win the Democratic primary if Hillary Clinton did?

Maybe she could, but she is a truly dreadful political tectician and performer, who appeaes to have no enthusiastic network of political ooeratives or supportes. Hillary Clinton certainly had the latter in the Democratic Party.

Fair point. It could be a messy primary, cf Ford v Reagan in '76 or Carter v Kennedy in '80, but unlike Ford or Carter, Harris won't have the advantage of being POTUS.