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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 15:27:43 GMT
Donald Trump raw votes2016: 62,984,828 (46.1%) 2020: 74,216,914 (46.9%) Technically he didn't lose any. Technically he could have lost all 70 million from 2016 and picked up 74 million different ones. Technically he voted for himself twice in different states. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 8, 2022 16:00:29 GMT
Technically he could have lost all 70 million from 2016 and picked up 74 million different ones. Technically he voted for himself twice in different states. How did he get the 4-votes? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 16:13:22 GMT
Technically he voted for himself twice in different states. How did he get the 4-votes? 😂 |
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Post by stb12 on Feb 8, 2022 16:41:01 GMT
Trump could shoot himself and his base would still write in his name
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Post by myth11 on Feb 8, 2022 18:08:42 GMT
Though the fact he actually lost in 2020 suggests that statement wasn't strictly true..... 2016: 62,984,828 (46.1%) 2020: 74,216,914 (46.9%) Technically he didn't lose any. Trump gained a lot of non grad whites which very nearly countered the Dems turnout gains with non white voters in the 4 states that trump needed to hold. However trump lost ground with white college voters with Georgia white college votes having voted 70-30 trump in 2016 but dropping to 55-45 in 2020 having the biggest impact. |
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Post by jamesg on Feb 22, 2022 19:50:09 GMT
I was watching some footage of AOC out on the campaign trail in support for House candidates this coming November.
She certainly has the feel about her, is doing what you'd traditionally expect an upcoming presidential candidate to be doing. Those appearances are a big deal.
I'm expecting her to run for the White House. We'll see if I'm right or wrong there down the line.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2022 21:42:05 GMT
I was watching some footage of AOC out on the campaign trail in support for House candidates this coming November. She certainly has the feel about her, is doing what you'd traditionally expect an upcoming presidential candidate to be doing. Those appearances are a big deal. I'm expecting her to run for the White House. We'll see if I'm right or wrong there down the line. She might well, but she’d surely have to trim her views to win over Independents let alone potential wavering Republicans. |
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Post by jamesg on Feb 23, 2022 22:55:23 GMT
I was watching some footage of AOC out on the campaign trail in support for House candidates this coming November. She certainly has the feel about her, is doing what you'd traditionally expect an upcoming presidential candidate to be doing. Those appearances are a big deal. I'm expecting her to run for the White House. We'll see if I'm right or wrong there down the line. She might well, but she’d surely have to trim her views to win over Independents let alone potential wavering Republicans. Oh hell, yeah. To win, she'd need to change course in so many areas. But I still believe she is going to go for it. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Mar 10, 2022 20:14:36 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 10, 2022 21:28:31 GMT
I honestly can't see Biden standing again. I just don't think he will be robust enough to do so
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 4:32:58 GMT
What about Harris-Buttigieg vs Trump-DeSantis?
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Post by jamesg on Mar 12, 2022 8:17:10 GMT
What about Harris-Buttigieg vs Trump-DeSantis? Mayor Pete would be a fool to tie himself to that sinking ship, even if he was the top of the ticket. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 8:28:42 GMT
What about Harris-Buttigieg vs Trump-DeSantis? Mayor Pete would be a fool to tie himself to that sinking ship, even if he was the top of the ticket. It's going to be tough whoever the nominees are. Harris-Buttigieg in 2024 and Buttigieg-Ossoff in 2028? |
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Post by minionofmidas on Mar 12, 2022 8:57:16 GMT
DeSantis is angling to supplant Trump as leader of the (majoritarian) trumpery wing of the GOP, he wouldn't be his running mate.
If we're doing brave predictions, then let me go on the record that Trump will win the 2024 election from prison.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 12, 2022 11:47:00 GMT
If we're doing brave predictions, then let me go on the record that Trump will win the 2024 election from prison. How would that work, exactly? For a start, I couldn't see the anti-Trump minority in the GOP giving even nominal support to him in those circumstances. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Mar 12, 2022 12:09:43 GMT
If we're doing brave predictions, then let me go on the record that Trump will win the 2024 election from prison. How would that work, exactly? For a start, I couldn't see the anti-Trump minority in the GOP giving even nominal support to him in those circumstances. I don't think he needs that. Tbf most of these people are net vote losers. As to whether it could really work I am not at all certain. (There's a reason I used the word 'brave' - mostly it's just the most memeworthy somewhat realistic outcome). In principle voters only vote for electors though, who are not in prison, and electors are free to vote for whoever they want. |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 12, 2022 12:12:09 GMT
How would that work, exactly? For a start, I couldn't see the anti-Trump minority in the GOP giving even nominal support to him in those circumstances.
As to whether it could really work I am not at all certain. (There's a reason I used the word 'brave' - mostly it's just the most memeworthy somewhat realistic outcome). In principle voters only vote for electors though, who are not in prison, and electors are free to vote for whoever they want. Tbh they are a bit like the Change UK mob in this country. Little organic support in the wider electorate, but hugely disproportionately more amongst opinion formers. And even in these anti-system times, that group can still have an outsized influence. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 1:29:10 GMT
What about Harris-Buttigieg vs Trump-DeSantis? I’m not even sure Kamala Harris would win the Democratic nomination, let alone the election. She is so unpopular and poorly rated according to the polls. If we’re looking specifically at senior members of the current administration for a *potential* nominee I think Anthony Blinken is more likely than Harris. |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 13, 2022 10:09:16 GMT
In truth Harris is in large part a box ticking exercise (the Dems get to claim the first ever female Veep) She has never been electorally viable in her own right.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 12:19:32 GMT
What about Harris-Buttigieg vs Trump-DeSantis? I’m not even sure Kamala Harris would win the Democratic nomination, let alone the election. She is so unpopular and poorly rated according to the polls. If we’re looking specifically at senior members of the current administration for a *potential* nominee I think Anthony Blinken is more likely than Harris. Imagine an AOC vs Harris primary. |
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