john07
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Post by john07 on Nov 4, 2023 22:35:04 GMT
What? You @welded them together. but I’m sure he will solder on Especially within a situation of flux.
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Nov 14, 2023 20:28:10 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 14, 2023 20:29:32 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Nov 14, 2023 20:42:54 GMT
Harry buddy, while I admire you’re enthusiasm for reporting minor political stories like this, please don’t think they trigger a by-election.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 14, 2023 22:30:50 GMT
Of all the people on here who might have given us some Ian Paisley . . .
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 14, 2023 22:52:02 GMT
Of all the people on here who might have given us some Ian Paisley . . . As a Roman Catholic priest, and the son of a man called Kevin Barry, what could be more appropriate? 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Nov 15, 2023 5:58:02 GMT
Harry buddy, while I admire you’re enthusiasm for reporting minor political stories like this, please don’t think they trigger a by-election. All I know is that MP's resigning or dying causes a by-election, the same for constituency Senedd Members and MSP's, but for all these new elected positions I do not know what the rules are so highlight instances where the situation would cause an MP to stand down and simply ask.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Nov 15, 2023 8:12:00 GMT
Harry buddy, while I admire you’re enthusiasm for reporting minor political stories like this, please don’t think they trigger a by-election. All I know is that MP's resigning or dying causes a by-election, the same for constituency Senedd Members and MSP's, but for all these new elected positions I do not know what the rules are so highlight instances where the situation would cause an MP to stand down and simply ask. If an MP had done what the mayor of Cambridgeshire and Peterborough has they would not be resigning.
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weld
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Post by weld on Nov 17, 2023 7:59:22 GMT
Epping Forest? Ynys Mon? 'The House of Commons deputy speaker and a Conservative MP are under investigation by the standards watchdog over a gathering during the Covid pandemic. In a new twist in the "partygate" scandal, Daniel Greenberg, the House of Commons standards commissioner, is exploring claims that Dame Eleanor Laing, deputy speaker, and Virginia Crosbie, MP for Ynys Mon, might have broken rules for MPs. The December 2020 event was also attended by Sir Bernard Jenkin, a member of the Commons privileges committee that concluded Boris Johnson had misled MPs over partygate.'
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Post by batman on Nov 17, 2023 8:16:39 GMT
Epping Forest? Ynys Mon? 'The House of Commons deputy speaker and a Conservative MP are under investigation by the standards watchdog over a gathering during the Covid pandemic. In a new twist in the "partygate" scandal, Daniel Greenberg, the House of Commons standards commissioner, is exploring claims that Dame Eleanor Laing, deputy speaker, and Virginia Crosbie, MP for Ynys Mon, might have broken rules for MPs. The December 2020 event was also attended by Sir Bernard Jenkin, a member of the Commons privileges committee that concluded Boris Johnson had misled MPs over partygate.' by-elections in those 2 particular constituencies, should they ever happen, would both be interesting. Ynys Mon because Labour and Plaid would both compete for Tory votes, Epping Forest because it would be interesting to see if the Tories could be beaten, and if so by whom.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 17, 2023 14:12:40 GMT
Epping Forest? Ynys Mon? 'The House of Commons deputy speaker and a Conservative MP are under investigation by the standards watchdog over a gathering during the Covid pandemic. In a new twist in the "partygate" scandal, Daniel Greenberg, the House of Commons standards commissioner, is exploring claims that Dame Eleanor Laing, deputy speaker, and Virginia Crosbie, MP for Ynys Mon, might have broken rules for MPs. The December 2020 event was also attended by Sir Bernard Jenkin, a member of the Commons privileges committee that concluded Boris Johnson had misled MPs over partygate.' by-elections in those 2 particular constituencies, should they ever happen, would both be interesting. Ynys Mon because Labour and Plaid would both compete for Tory votes, Epping Forest because it would be interesting to see if the Tories could be beaten, and if so by whom. Epping Forest would in current circumstances be gained by Labour, just as Mid Beds and Selby etc. were. Even if the SDP had a candidate, it wouldn’t get 4,077 votes like last time.
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Post by batman on Nov 17, 2023 15:25:27 GMT
Epping Forest has a distinctly more viscerally conservative culture than Mid Beds or Selby & Ainsty, and has not seen Labour councillors for a generation now (although there used to be several in Loughton, Waltham Abbey & the odd other ward). I think that a Conservative hold would be possible there, as it also would be in quite a number of other Essex constituencies. However a Labour win would also be possible depending on the circumstances. Perhaps a Reform UK candidate could end up being kingmaker, as it were.
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Post by stb12 on Nov 17, 2023 16:14:02 GMT
Feels a bit strange to be speculating when Laing is still Deputy Speaker!
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Post by John Chanin on Nov 17, 2023 16:50:34 GMT
Feels a bit strange to be speculating when Laing is still Deputy Speaker! There is a reason this thread was described as a steaming pile of horse shit.....
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Post by stb12 on Nov 17, 2023 17:05:14 GMT
Feels a bit strange to be speculating when Laing is still Deputy Speaker! There is a reason this thread was described as a steaming pile of horse shit..... I don’t have an issue with the thread myself, I’m just thinking that if this was that serious there’d be pressure for her to step down from the Deputy Speaker role But I might be looking at it incorrectly
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 17, 2023 17:16:14 GMT
There is a reason this thread was described as a steaming pile of horse shit..... I don’t have an issue with the thread myself, I’m just thinking that if this was that serious there’d be pressure for her to step down from the Deputy Speaker role But I might be looking at it incorrectly If the Standards Committee find against her, I think she will have to stand down as Deputy Speaker. However there is no chance she will be given a suspension long enough to trigger recall.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 17, 2023 17:18:23 GMT
Feels a bit strange to be speculating when Laing is still Deputy Speaker! There is a reason this thread was described as a steaming pile of horse shit..... The thread is fine, but like every other thread on this forum, there are one or two posters who can't help but post horse shit constantly
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Nov 17, 2023 17:47:50 GMT
This thread staying open lessens the possibility of individual threads being started for each and every potential by-election based on crumbs of "evidence". Better the devil you know.
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weld
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Post by weld on Nov 17, 2023 20:46:51 GMT
Feels a bit strange to be speculating when Laing is still Deputy Speaker! There is a reason this thread was described as a steaming pile of horse shit..... FWIW I was the one who said that but I never asked for a poll to be held on the topic of abolition.
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Nov 20, 2023 6:50:48 GMT
Whatever happens, we can all agree that we are one year out from the next election (as in there will be a general election sometime in 2024), therefore I suggest we pause this thread (but allow a new thread to be opened when a by-election happens) and open a brand new one the day after the general election with two distinct sections. Section one is a discussion about what seats could have by-elections in them, and the second section is discussion of that by-election when one occurs.
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