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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 10:09:02 GMT
I’m sure this means everyone on this forum is relieved no one even *hinted* at the identity of the accused.... Not ever... In any way... That would have been reckless indeed.
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Post by johng on Dec 13, 2020 12:48:28 GMT
I’m sure this means everyone on this forum is relieved no one even *hinted* at the identity of the accused.... Not ever... In any way... That would have been reckless indeed. I don't think the people of Twitter are too worried.
An MP who we haven't heard off for a while is currently trending.
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Post by Crimson King on Dec 13, 2020 13:51:26 GMT
Can somebody drop me a two word personal message please It’s not in the public interest but it interests the public would the second word be “off” 😉
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 14:29:09 GMT
I’m sure this means everyone on this forum is relieved no one even *hinted* at the identity of the accused.... Not ever... In any way... That would have been reckless indeed. I don't think the people of Twitter are too worried.
An MP who we haven't heard off for a while is currently trending.
Urgh. Social media demonstrating it’s ‘worth’ again. Maybe there’s another Sally Bercow amongst them to make an example of.
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Post by southernliberal on Dec 28, 2020 15:16:32 GMT
So I was just taking a quick look at the history of recent parliamentary by-elections and noted that 2020 is set to be the first year since 2010 that there have been no parliamentary by-elections - and obviously this fact would still be true even if by-elections were permitted as there are no current vacancies.
2010 however would have had three by-elections due to two deaths (David Taylor and Ashok Kumar) and one resignation (Iris Robinson) were it not for the impending 2010 general election, so the last year without any by-elections OR a general election, was 1998.The only other year since 1980 without a by-election was 1992 (another GE year).
Given this historical anomaly, do we think it likely we might have a glut of by-elections in 2021 that we were simply fortunate to avoid this year or perhaps is the lack of by-elections/vacancies partly caused by the fact that we have had three general elections in quick succession over the last five years, so the current crop of MPs are all relatively junior. Thoughts?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 28, 2020 15:20:23 GMT
There are in effect two byelections pending - Batley and Spen, and Airdrie and Shotts.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Dec 28, 2020 15:32:43 GMT
The government has yet to confirm that England will have elections at all in 2021.
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 28, 2020 15:43:04 GMT
There are in effect two byelections pending - Batley and Spen, and Airdrie and Shotts. Three, Birmingham Hodge Hill.
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Post by peterl on Dec 28, 2020 15:45:16 GMT
The government has yet to confirm that England will have elections at all in 2021. For Parliamentary by elections, its only up to the government if its a Tory MP that goes, since the rules for such contests have not been changed. If say a Labour MP resigns and the Labour whip moves the writ, there will be a by election.
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 28, 2020 15:56:09 GMT
The government has yet to confirm that England will have elections at all in 2021. For Parliamentary by elections, its only up to the government if its a Tory MP that goes, since the rules for such contests have not been changed. If say a Labour MP resigns and the Labour whip moves the writ, there will be a by election. Not so, by-elections are specifically suspended under the coronavirus legislation therefore it would need those regulations to be amended, realistically by government, to allow the moving of a writ.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 28, 2020 16:06:28 GMT
For Parliamentary by elections, its only up to the government if its a Tory MP that goes, since the rules for such contests have not been changed. If say a Labour MP resigns and the Labour whip moves the writ, there will be a by election. Not so, by-elections are specifically suspended under the coronavirus legislation therefore it would need those regulations to be amended, realistically by government, to allow the moving of a writ. You are mistaken. Parliamentary elections are not covered by the provisions of the Coronavirus Act 2020. The government did not need to suspend them because no general election is due, and Parliamentary byelections only happen when the writ is moved in the House of Commons - which needs a specific resolution that the government can block.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Dec 28, 2020 16:24:39 GMT
I doubt any party will break ranks to call a by-election during a time when other parties can accuse them of putting people at risk. So the reality is no elections in England until further notice.
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Post by southernliberal on Dec 28, 2020 16:37:24 GMT
Those three pending by-elections are all depending on those MPs winning their respective races to be fair - although two out of the three do seem certain.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jan 2, 2021 1:39:37 GMT
I doubt any party will break ranks to call a by-election during a time when other parties can accuse them of putting people at risk. So the reality is no elections in England until further notice. Maybe someone will propose all-postal by-elections for those seats.
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 2, 2021 1:46:21 GMT
Maybe someone will propose all-postal by-elections for those seats. Slightly putting the cart before the horse here as it’s highly unlikely any of the three will resign unless they’re successfully elected Mayor, and if there are no elections in England then they can’t be elected Mayor, thereby removing the need to leave their Westminster seat and a Whip to move a by-election writ.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 2, 2021 9:13:53 GMT
Maybe someone will propose all-postal by-elections for those seats. Slightly putting the cart before the horse here as it’s highly unlikely any of the three will resign unless they’re successfully elected Mayor, and if there are no elections in England then they can’t be elected Mayor, thereby removing the need to leave their Westminster seat and a Whip to move a by-election writ. The legal position is that everything is going ahead in May except the West Yorkshire mayoralty (for which the relevant legal orders haven't been made yet). Any change to that (or to the arrangements for the May poll) is speculation and would require primary legislation. There are no Parliamentary vacancies at the moment, and if any occur in the near future there is no rush to fill them.
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 2, 2021 9:19:01 GMT
Slightly putting the cart before the horse here as it’s highly unlikely any of the three will resign unless they’re successfully elected Mayor, and if there are no elections in England then they can’t be elected Mayor, thereby removing the need to leave their Westminster seat and a Whip to move a by-election writ. The legal position is that everything is going ahead in May except the West Yorkshire mayoralty (for which the relevant legal orders haven't been made yet). Any change to that (or to the arrangements for the May poll) is speculation and would require primary legislation. There are no Parliamentary vacancies at the moment, and if any occur in the near future there is no rush to fill them. I know, I was responding to Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith ‘s comment that there would be no elections in England by pointing out that if that were the case it rendered the debate on Parliamentary by-elections moot. It doesn’t mean that I agree with the original premise of Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith.
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Post by carolus on Jan 4, 2021 18:12:36 GMT
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Post by peterl on Jan 4, 2021 18:24:14 GMT
Good. While I despise the lockdown rules, there is nothing worse than a hypocrite.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Jan 4, 2021 18:28:22 GMT
What a waste of police time, CPS time, court time and resources.
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