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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 28, 2021 20:51:32 GMT
I think the four day rule was created in the late 1940s. Before then council terms were all related to a specific date - 15 April for district councils, 9 November for boroughs - and only varied by one day if that date fell on a Sunday. In the late 1940s the precise date was scrapped and all ordinary local elections moved to the spring.
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Post by grahammurray on Sept 28, 2021 22:45:20 GMT
I think the four day rule was created in the late 1940s. Before then council terms were all related to a specific date - 15 April for district councils, 9 November for boroughs - and only varied by one day if that date fell on a Sunday. In the late 1940s the precise date was scrapped and all ordinary local elections moved to the spring. Was it not four days from November 1st? |
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Post by listener on Sept 29, 2021 0:54:05 GMT
Strange to read a mention of Corrour above, because it lies in the Fort William and Ardnamurchan electoral division of Highland District, where a by-election is pending.
Corrour is a lonely station on the West Highland railway in the middle of Rannoch Moor. When I passed through it several times in my youth on my way to the Loch Ossian Youth Hostel with its idyllic view up the glen towards Ben Alder, the station itself was pretty desolate, although I believe that it now has a bustling tea-room. There are no public roads at Corrour; it is served only by private estate roads, but I estimate that it would take at least an hour to drive to Fort William and another hour and a half beyond that to reach Ardnamurchan. That is the scale of an electoral division in Highland District.
I last drove through the Ardnamurchan Peninsula in summer 2017 on my way from Mull to Rum. We passed the new Ardnamurchan distillery, which was due to open in 2018. I see that it is now a thriving business.
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Post by andrewp on Sept 29, 2021 10:36:08 GMT
Old Catton and Sprowston is a Conservative hold.
Turnout 21.9%
Partial numbers are Con 721, Lab 332
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Post by andrewp on Sept 29, 2021 11:11:39 GMT
Broadland, Brundall. 2 Green gains from Con
Green 594,530
Con 480,453
LD 425,303
Lab 161,137
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 29, 2021 11:16:00 GMT
Broadland, Brundall. 2 Green gains from Con Green 594,530 Con 480,453 LD 425,303 Lab 161,137 A majority of over 100 thousand? Must be due a boundary review  |
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Post by phil156 on Sept 29, 2021 11:24:37 GMT
Surely these figures are wrong looks more like a PCC election!
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Post by phil156 on Sept 29, 2021 11:26:12 GMT
It's ok I have it there are two election's
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 11:28:49 GMT
No there are two vacancies being filled by one election, as was entirely obvious and has been mentioned numerous times on this thread
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Post by peterl on Sept 29, 2021 11:29:06 GMT
Broadland, Brundall. 2 Green gains from Con Green 594,530 Con 480,453 LD 425,303 Lab 161,137 For once, I'm glad my prediction was wrong! |
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Post by andrewp on Sept 29, 2021 11:33:33 GMT
No candidate beat the alphabet. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 29, 2021 11:53:40 GMT
No candidate beat the alphabet. Although i think in all 4 cases, the alphabetically first candidate was also the higher profile/one with more history in the ward, so not entirely surprising... |
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Post by andrewp on Sept 29, 2021 11:56:49 GMT
The full Broadland, Old Catton and Sprowston result
Con 721
Lab 332
LD 278
Green 110
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Post by phil156 on Sept 29, 2021 11:57:15 GMT
I wonder what the full result in Old Catton was
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Post by middleenglander on Sept 29, 2021 14:48:36 GMT
Broadland: Brundall - 2 Green gains from Conservative| Party | 2021 votes
1st | 2021 votes
2nd | 2021 votes
average | 2021 share
average | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Green | 594 | 530 | 562 | 36.5% | +15.0% | +16.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Conservative | 480 | 453 | 467 | 30.3% | -10.7% | -11.3% | -14.3% | -12.4% | | Liberal Democrat | 425 | 303 | 364 | 23.6% | +8.3% | +7.1% | +5.2% | +4.5% | | Labour | 161 | 137 | 149 | 9.7% | -12.5% | -12.7% | -11.2% | -11.9% | | UKIP |
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| -16.2% | -16.7% | | Total votes | 1,660 | 1,423 | 1,542 |
| 78% | 84% | 41% | 43% |
Swing: Conservative to Green 12¾% / 14% since 2019 otherwise not meaningful Council now: 31 Conservative, 12 Liberal Democrat, 2 Labour, 2 Green Broadland: Old Catton & Sprowston - Conservative hold | Party | 2021 votes
District | 2021 share
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County | since 2019 "top"
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County | since 2015 "top"
District | since 2015 "average"
District | | Conservative | 721 | 50.0% | -9.6% | +3.5% | +2.5% | -15.0% | +6.1% | +5.5% | | Labour | 332 | 23.0% | -1.3% | +4.8% | +4.6% | +3.0% | -3.2% | -1.4% | | Liberal Democrat | 278 | 19.3% | +12.9% | -0.4% | +1.8% | +4.4% | +8.3% | +9.2% | | Green | 110 | 7.6% | -1.9% | -8.0% | -8.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | UKIP |
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| -18.9% | -20.9% | | Total votes | 1.441 |
| 61% | 65% | 69% | 69% | 30% | 33% |
Swing since District Council elections: Conservative to Labour ¾% / 1% since 2019 but Labour to Conservative 4¾% / 3½% since 2015
Swing since County Council elections: Conservative to Labour 4¼% since May and 9% since 2017
Council now: 31 Conservative, 12 Liberal Democrat, 2 Labour, 2 Green
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 29, 2021 16:41:43 GMT
They look like pretty safe Tory wards. Until yesterday! Anyone know why the Greens did well? |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 29, 2021 19:14:45 GMT
They look like pretty safe Tory wards. Until yesterday! Anyone know why the Greens did well? Occam's Razor says a solid campaign, no Labour activity, and probably very complacent Tories. |
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Post by peterl on Sept 29, 2021 19:20:37 GMT
Until yesterday! Anyone know why the Greens did well? Occam's Razor says a solid campaign, no Labour activity, and probably very complacent Tories. Tory complacency in areas where they enjoy strong support is endemic in my experience. It is often manifested in an arrogant assumption that they have a right to be in charge and that people will always vote for them because they are the "natural party of government". |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 29, 2021 19:24:06 GMT
Occam's Razor says a solid campaign, no Labour activity, and probably very complacent Tories. Tory complacency in areas where they enjoy strong support is endemic in my experience. It is often manifested in an arrogant assumption that they have a right to be in charge and that people will always vote for them because they are the "natural party of government". Watching Graham Brady knock up Green-voting households was my highlight of polling day 2018. They were just going to the big houses and assuming. |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 29, 2021 21:08:00 GMT
Until yesterday! Anyone know why the Greens did well? Occam's Razor says a solid campaign, no Labour activity, and probably very complacent Tories. Lib Dem vote was also up significantly, which in this case probably helped the Greens win. Plague on the big two houses |
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