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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 28, 2021 17:37:48 GMT
Anyone know why this is on a Tuesday? The council annual meeting is on the 30th, a clash they'll have wanted to avoid. An Annual Council in September seems stranger than a Tuesday election to be honest. Covid effect? EDIT: It appears it is not the Annual Council. |
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Post by peterl on Sept 28, 2021 17:43:49 GMT
That makes it even stranger. As I understand it, new councillors take office on the fourth day after polling day. Which means if the elections were held last Thursday, the new councillors could have participated in the annual meeting and had a nice introduction to how the council works.
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Post by ilerda on Sept 28, 2021 17:44:57 GMT
For most park-and-rides the ride part is done by bus.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 28, 2021 17:45:36 GMT
this seems suboptimal. What are you going to ride - is there a bus depot or something? Postwick had a population of 404 (2011 Census). Hardly surprising that it has never had a railway station. Norwich has a substantial (bus) park & ride network, including the site at Postwick. Not sure what you mean by a "bus depot". Are you American by any chance? I believe they use "depot" to mean what we would describe as a "bus station". |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 28, 2021 17:50:35 GMT
That makes it even stranger. As I understand it, new councillors take office on the fourth day after polling day. Which means if the elections were held last Thursday, the new councillors could have participated in the annual meeting and had a nice introduction to how the council works. I'm pretty sure they take office as soon as the result is announced and they sign the paperwork? Andrew Teale agrees, in the previews linked above, that the Tuesday election allows them to take part in Thursday's meeting. The fourth-day thing has a feel of either a historic rule, or some tradition about when they'd sign the paperwork. At our counts, they have the forms there for winners to sign as soon as they want. |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 28, 2021 17:51:24 GMT
this seems suboptimal. What are you going to ride - is there a bus depot or something? Postwick had a population of 404 (2011 Census). Hardly surprising that it has never had a railway station. Someone's never heard of Berney Arms  |
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Post by andrewteale on Sept 28, 2021 18:15:06 GMT
That makes it even stranger. As I understand it, new councillors take office on the fourth day after polling day. Which means if the elections were held last Thursday, the new councillors could have participated in the annual meeting and had a nice introduction to how the council works. I'm pretty sure they take office as soon as the result is announced and they sign the paperwork? Andrew Teale agrees, in the previews linked above, that the Tuesday election allows them to take part in Thursday's meeting. The fourth-day thing has a feel of either a historic rule, or some tradition about when they'd sign the paperwork. At our counts, they have the forms there for winners to sign as soon as they want. The fourth-day thing is for councillors elected in the May ordinary elections, because their predecessors' terms expire on the fourth day after the May elections. Councillors who win by-elections, on the other hand, should be able to slot straight in because they're taking over a vacant seat. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 28, 2021 18:18:31 GMT
That makes it even stranger. As I understand it, new councillors take office on the fourth day after polling day. Which means if the elections were held last Thursday, the new councillors could have participated in the annual meeting and had a nice introduction to how the council works. I'm pretty sure they take office as soon as the result is announced and they sign the paperwork? Andrew Teale agrees, in the previews linked above, that the Tuesday election allows them to take part in Thursday's meeting. The fourth-day thing has a feel of either a historic rule, or some tradition about when they'd sign the paperwork. At our counts, they have the forms there for winners to sign as soon as they want. I believe the "four day thing" applies to retiring councillors at annual elections, whose terms of office finish not on polling day but "on the fourth day after the ordinary day of election" at which point any newly elected councillors take over. (LGA 1972 16 (3) for Parish Councillors, but I presume this applies generally) In the case of by-elections the existing councillor will have left office already (by death, disqualification, resignation etc) so I assume the newly elected councillor is not required to wait. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 28, 2021 18:19:05 GMT
I'm pretty sure they take office as soon as the result is announced and they sign the paperwork? Andrew Teale agrees, in the previews linked above, that the Tuesday election allows them to take part in Thursday's meeting. The fourth-day thing has a feel of either a historic rule, or some tradition about when they'd sign the paperwork. At our counts, they have the forms there for winners to sign as soon as they want. The fourth-day thing is for councillors elected in the May ordinary elections, because their predecessors' terms expire on the fourth day after the May elections. Councillors who win by-elections, on the other hand, should be able to slot straight in because they're taking over a vacant seat. Yes, what he said! |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 28, 2021 18:19:36 GMT
I'm pretty sure they take office as soon as the result is announced and they sign the paperwork? Andrew Teale agrees, in the previews linked above, that the Tuesday election allows them to take part in Thursday's meeting. The fourth-day thing has a feel of either a historic rule, or some tradition about when they'd sign the paperwork. At our counts, they have the forms there for winners to sign as soon as they want. The fourth-day thing is for councillors elected in the May ordinary elections, because their predecessors' terms expire on the fourth day after the May elections. Councillors who win by-elections, on the other hand, should be able to slot straight in because they're taking over a vacant seat. Where is this in the legislation? (Not doubting at this case, given the source, just I like to read it in full. Because, well, why not!) |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 28, 2021 18:20:07 GMT
Ahhh, I see that's already been answered! Thanks all.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 28, 2021 18:24:12 GMT
Postwick had a population of 404 (2011 Census). Hardly surprising that it has never had a railway station. Someone's never heard of Berney Arms Or Corrour. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 18:27:33 GMT
There are 3 elections tomorrow when voters go they will put two X down in Brundall Ward and voters in Old Catton & Sprowston West will put 1. So there are 3 vacancies. When they are counted there be 3 new councilors elected No. There are three vacancies being filled by 2 elections. If Brundall had a separate ballot paper for each vacancy then there would be three elections |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 28, 2021 18:30:30 GMT
Postwick had a population of 404 (2011 Census). Hardly surprising that it has never had a railway station. Someone's never heard of Berney Arms There's a backstory to Berney Arms though. The landowner sold the land on condition that the railway built a railway station there. It quickly became obvious that there was little or no demand and the railway stopped calling at the station arguing that their commitment had been to build the station, not to actually stop trains there! A court case ensued; the railway company lost; the ruling was that a service had to be provided "in perpetuity". There was a similar case in North Wales where a landowner (Vaynol estate?) required a station to be provided at Treborth. It closed in 1960 so some agreement had obviously been reached. The local shedmaster (Bangor) recorded a visit in the late 40s where the coins in the booking office cash drawer were covered in verdigris because they had lain there undisturbed for so long! |
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Post by minionofmidas on Sept 28, 2021 19:05:42 GMT
this seems suboptimal. What are you going to ride - is there a bus depot or something? Postwick had a population of 404 (2011 Census). Hardly surprising that it has never had a railway station. Norwich has a substantial (bus) park & ride network, including the site at Postwick. Not sure what you mean by a "bus depot". Are you American by any chance? I believe they use "depot" to mean what we would describe as a "bus station". I am not American but neither am I British (or any other kind of native speaker of English). American usages may thus creep into my posts. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 28, 2021 19:19:42 GMT
Postwick had a population of 404 (2011 Census). Hardly surprising that it has never had a railway station. Norwich has a substantial (bus) park & ride network, including the site at Postwick. Not sure what you mean by a "bus depot". Are you American by any chance? I believe they use "depot" to mean what we would describe as a "bus station". I am not American but neither am I British (or any other kind of native speaker of English). American usages may thus creep into my posts. Well, a bus depot in the UK usually means a garage where buses are stabled when not in use. As Gwyn says, bus station is used to mean a location, typically town or city centre, where buses herd together to exchange passengers and terminate their routes. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 28, 2021 19:22:38 GMT
And now is surely a suitable moment to remind attentive readers that Postwick is pronounced, in typical Narfuk fashion, "Possick".
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 28, 2021 19:27:33 GMT
Someone's never heard of Berney Arms Or Corrour. Or Doleham, or most stations on the Marshlink line... |
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Post by iainbhx on Sept 28, 2021 19:37:24 GMT
Someone's never heard of Berney Arms Or Corrour. The thriving metropoleis of the Looe branch. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 28, 2021 19:43:11 GMT
The thriving metropolis of the Looe branch. Ah indeed, Coombe Junction Halt. |
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