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Post by neilm on Dec 2, 2016 2:06:10 GMT
Also, Energy Secretary isn't that great a post really, mostly dealing with nuclear stuff. Almost nothing about power stations, infrastructure etc so nothing really for a senator from a coal mining state to be interested in. The stuff at the Argonne Laboratory is interesting I guess.
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 2, 2016 2:23:57 GMT
Also, Energy Secretary isn't that great a post really, mostly dealing with nuclear stuff. Almost nothing about power stations, infrastructure etc so nothing really for a senator from a coal mining state to be interested in. The stuff at the Argonne Laboratory is interesting I guess. IIRC about 50% of the Department of Energy's budget is spent on matters relating to nuclear weapons and nuclear waste. |
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Post by john07 on Dec 2, 2016 9:40:27 GMT
Also, Energy Secretary isn't that great a post really, mostly dealing with nuclear stuff. Almost nothing about power stations, infrastructure etc so nothing really for a senator from a coal mining state to be interested in. The stuff at the Argonne Laboratory is interesting I guess. Shouldn't that read an ex-coal mining state? |
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Post by jamie on Dec 2, 2016 11:43:46 GMT
At his rally in Ohio last night Trump confirmed that General James 'Mad Dog' Mattis would be his nominee for Secretary of Defence. This wil require a waiver from Congress as he is only recently retired from the military. First genuinely good pick by Trump. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 14:44:13 GMT
(I assume we still do cabinet appointments in this thread)
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Post by jamie on Dec 5, 2016 14:52:50 GMT
I'm calling it, Carson is 2016s big city black mayor.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 5, 2016 18:40:48 GMT
Despite some chat about Trump winning on economy, it was - well known to Britons - immigration&independence:   |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 5, 2016 23:13:25 GMT
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Post by Sharon on Dec 6, 2016 0:59:39 GMT
I wonder how many "faithless electors" there will be on 19th December.... |
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Post by Malice the Red on Dec 6, 2016 1:48:36 GMT
I wonder how many "faithless electors" there will be on 19th December.... A ton, both ways. Sanders will get a significant amount, too. Almost a dozen could flip in total. Although, of course, there will likely be 0 faithless electors because reality. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Dec 6, 2016 2:09:02 GMT
I wonder how many "faithless electors" there will be on 19th December.... In the incredibly unlikely scenario that there were enough to ensure Trump wasn't president, his followers would be in no position to complain about the flaws of the electoral college system.  |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 6, 2016 11:20:25 GMT
IIUC Congress can reject votes if a) a challenge is submitted signed by so many members of both houses and b) both chambers vote to reject the result.
If the result is to push a candidate below 270 I assume run-off elections would take place. I think the Republicans have a clear majority of House delegations but the Senate vote for Veep could be interesting if Trump or Pence has pissed anyone off.
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 7, 2016 11:41:30 GMT
Meanwhile, Clinton's lead in the popular vote continues to rise - now past the 2.6 million mark......
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 7, 2016 12:12:56 GMT
Meanwhile, Clinton's lead in the popular vote continues to rise - now past the 2.6 million mark...... With 65,519,461 votes currently tallied for Clinton, she is likely to exceed Obama's 2012 total of 65,915,795. |
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Post by Malice the Red on Dec 7, 2016 17:05:28 GMT
To be fair, Hitler won Man of the Year as well. And even if he had lost, Trump would've probably been named it anyway - or maybe co-named with Farage. |
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Post by slicesofjim on Dec 10, 2016 12:00:58 GMT
Report in Jeff Bezos' blog Great response from the Transition team  One of the biggest electoral college victories in history, except Obama (twice), Bill Clinton (twice), George HW Bush, Reagan (twice), etc etc |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 10, 2016 12:06:53 GMT
And that's just going back to 1980.....
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Post by No Offence Alan on Dec 10, 2016 12:09:12 GMT
Meanwhile, Clinton's lead in the popular vote continues to rise - now past the 2.6 million mark...... With 65,519,461 votes currently tallied for Clinton, she is likely to exceed Obama's 2012 total of 65,915,795. So the pollsters were right, in regards to the national vote - a Clinton lead. They were just hopeless in the individual states. |
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Post by jamie on Dec 10, 2016 12:41:09 GMT
With 65,519,461 votes currently tallied for Clinton, she is likely to exceed Obama's 2012 total of 65,915,795. So the pollsters were right, in regards to the national vote - a Clinton lead. They were just hopeless in the individual states. There never seemed to be any questions about how Trump was gaining amongst less educated whites yet was way behind in states like Michigan and Wisconsin. Polling was much better in Hispanic/better educated states (minus New Hampshire). |
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 10, 2016 14:01:30 GMT
So the pollsters were right, in regards to the national vote - a Clinton lead. They were just hopeless in the individual states. There never seemed to be any questions about how Trump was gaining amongst less educated whites yet was way behind in states like Michigan and Wisconsin. Polling was much better in Hispanic/better educated states (minus New Hampshire). A lot of the polling in Wisconsin showed Trump doing well in the Green Bay area and the rural north but under performing badly in the Milwaukee suburbs. In the end his vote held up reasonably well in the suburbs and this combined with poor turnout in Milwaukee itself was where the polls went wrong. My assumption is that many educated GOP voters were simply too embarrassed to admit to pollsters that they were voting for Trump and that the Comey intervention probably caused a late swing to Trump among such voters. |
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