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Post by Merseymike on Nov 10, 2016 17:30:29 GMT
If you phone in sick monthly with your mental health issues, requiring yet another "welcome back" meeting, then you are just too hard work. I take it you've never suffered with a mental health issue? I have....and to be frank for that period of time I wasn't up to working. And for some people with chronic problems they may be fine some of the time but other days can't hack it. And I can understand why an employer would find that impossible to deal with. It doesn't mean that there shouldn't be other options available but that's where the supported work environment in a non profit environment would come in handy and I think expecting anyone but the state to fund that is unrealistic
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Post by BossMan on Nov 10, 2016 18:11:54 GMT
Swings by county. Standout for me is that the Midwestern D (DFL in MN) farming vote collapsed utterly. The rural DFL congressmen that held on did very well to given the headwinds. Note also the lack of large swings to Clinton in THE EDUCATED SUBURBS that were supposed to happen; this in the end decided the election and I think is the source of the polling failure. Your maps are a great feature of this forum Sibboleth. Keep them coming! I do have one request, however: would you mind just removing that photograph from your signature; it is a bit irritating tbh. Thanks in advance.
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 10, 2016 18:19:23 GMT
Eh the relevant anniversaries are over now so sure it can be taken down.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 18:31:45 GMT
"The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump's campaign staff during the U.S. election campaign, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency on Thursday. "There were contacts," Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying. He did not give details. When asked whether these contacts would now intensify after Trump's election victory, Ryabkov said: "These working moments and follow-up on this or that matter will depend on the situation and the questions which face us. But we will of course continue this work after the elections." (...) The Russian parliament erupted in applause on Wednesday when it heard that Trump had been elected and Putin told foreign ambassadors he was ready to fully restore ties with Washington." www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/russian-diplomat-there-were-contacts-with-trumps-campaign.html
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 10, 2016 19:16:42 GMT
David Foster Wallace on the election of the insane celebrity populist Johnny Gentle in Infinite Jest, his great novel of modern America published twenty years ago... When you consider that Trump basically beat both parties in a two-round system this is pretty much spot on.
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Post by spqr on Nov 10, 2016 19:19:44 GMT
David Foster Wallace on the election of the insane celebrity populist Johnny Gentle in Infinite Jest, his great novel of modern America published twenty years ago... When you consider that Trump basically beat both parties in a two-round system this is pretty much spot on. Yeah, Lyndon LaRouche must be looking at Trump's success and wondering what the hell he's been doing wrong all these years...
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 10, 2016 19:57:37 GMT
Eh the relevant anniversaries are over now so sure it can be taken down. Thank you.
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 10, 2016 20:11:05 GMT
It really is quite amusing watching Trump as he realises just what he has gotten himself into. He has the look and sound of someone who never really thought he was going to be elected and is far from sure that he is happy about it.
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Post by BossMan on Nov 10, 2016 20:24:46 GMT
It really is quite amusing watching Trump as he realises just what he has gotten himself into. He has the look and sound of someone who never really thought he was going to be elected and is far from sure that he is happy about it. I had that impression watching him on television with Obama in the White House. I did wonder if we'll be seeing President Pence at some point during the next few years.
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Post by nitory on Nov 10, 2016 20:31:08 GMT
It really is quite amusing watching Trump as he realises just what he has gotten himself into. He has the look and sound of someone who never really thought he was going to be elected and is far from sure that he is happy about it. It gives me a small amount of joy believing he's going to hate his life for the next four years. The press conference with Obama reminded me how uncomfortable he is in these situations; he's an entertainer who loves the energy of a crowd and cameras. He'll have none of that while actually doing the job. Instead having his day start with a security briefing on the most important world issues, then onto hours of meetings, phone calls, updates about congress and so on.
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 10, 2016 20:33:14 GMT
It really is quite amusing watching Trump as he realises just what he has gotten himself into. He has the look and sound of someone who never really thought he was going to be elected and is far from sure that he is happy about it. I had that impression watching him on television with Obama in the White House. I did wonder if we'll be seeing President Pence at some point during the next few years. Trump has far too much ego to resign but I don't think he will be involved in day to day affairs anywhere near as much as his recent predecessors. Whoever he appoints as White House Chief of Staff is likely to have considerably greater power than the holder of that role ever has. I would also imagine that id Ryan and McConnell play their cards right he will allow them to pursue their own agendas. He has told us time and again that he is a great deal maker so don't be surprised if the deal he strikes with the GOP establishment is that they get to run things with few constraints from him while he enjoys the trappings of office and a share of the credit for things that go well.
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Post by froome on Nov 10, 2016 20:36:48 GMT
It really is quite amusing watching Trump as he realises just what he has gotten himself into. He has the look and sound of someone who never really thought he was going to be elected and is far from sure that he is happy about it. It gives me a small amount of joy believing he's going to hate his life for the next four years. The press conference with Obama reminded me how uncomfortable he is in these situations; he's an entertainer who loves the energy of a crowd and cameras. He'll have none of that while actually doing the job. Instead having his day start with a security briefing on the most important world issues, then onto hours of meetings, phone calls, updates about congress and so on. Spot on. His ego was made to be an outlandish candidate, but will completely deflate when faced with the day to day grind of a president's life. However, that may lead him to take short cuts, which could ultimately leave us all worse.
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Post by john07 on Nov 10, 2016 20:47:07 GMT
Has anyone got an idea what will happen with the Federal Budget?
The tax cuts promised and the increases in in military and border security will mean a massive deficit even if there are massive cuts in non protected areas.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 10, 2016 22:01:23 GMT
David Foster Wallace on the election of the insane celebrity populist Johnny Gentle in Infinite Jest, his great novel of modern America published twenty years ago... When you consider that Trump basically beat both parties in a two-round system this is pretty much spot on. Yeah, Lyndon LaRouche must be looking at Trump's success and wondering what the hell he's been doing wrong all these years... I might not like Trump, but he's nowhere near LaRouche, who is an actual convicted fraudster and allegedly connected to very, very murky stuff.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 10, 2016 22:29:22 GMT
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Post by Rural Radical on Nov 10, 2016 22:41:09 GMT
Has anyone got an idea what will happen with the Federal Budget? The tax cuts promised and the increases in in military and border security will mean a massive deficit even if there are massive cuts in non protected areas. You need to watch the "Simpsons" clip that dealt with the aftermath of the Trump Presidency 😀
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Post by spqr on Nov 10, 2016 22:51:17 GMT
Yeah, Lyndon LaRouche must be looking at Trump's success and wondering what the hell he's been doing wrong all these years... I might not like Trump, but he's nowhere near LaRouche, who is an actual convicted fraudster and allegedly connected to very, very murky stuff. LaRouche is still the very peculiar Trot and second-rate intellectual that he was right at the beginning. All of the hallmarks of his political career - conspiracy theorizing; closed, cult-like behaviour; violent agitation; a penchant for forming shadowy institutions with respectable-sounding names - have remained more or less constant. The only thing that changes is the context in which he operates. Trump is a different beast entirely - a celebrity politician, not a covert operator/control freak. Only his ability to ignore conventional norms (by establishing his own instead) bears comparison to LaRouche's strategies. But even here there are differences - whereas Trump's charismatic authority displays itself in the form of populism (of sorts), designed to attract a wide group of people, LaRouche prefers to exert influence by appealing to a narrow cadre of true believers. This is why his infiltration of the Democratic Party has never borne any kind of fruit, and why he was for decades a hapless presidential candidate/nominee. That and the fact he's nuts. One interesting point to note about LaRouche is that he has formed connections over the years with a few civil-rights figures - most notably the infamous James Bevel, who was his running mate in 1992 (while LaRouche was languishing in a prison cell).
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Nov 10, 2016 22:53:43 GMT
The really frightening question for me is: who will fill the Cheney, Rove and Rumsfeld roles in a Trump Presidency?
Pence, at least, seems sane.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 10, 2016 23:03:20 GMT
It really is quite amusing watching Trump as he realises just what he has gotten himself into. He has the look and sound of someone who never really thought he was going to be elected and is far from sure that he is happy about it. A week or so ago, Trump said that he would accept the result of the election "if I win". Today I have been amusing myself with a fantasy idea that Trump had also said that he would only accept election if he won a plurality of the popular vote, as well as winning the Electoral College - and that if he lost the popular vote, he would tell all his Electoral College people to vote for the winner. In this fantasy scenario, it is a pledge which he made in small print months ago but which nobody noticed at the time. If Trump really did not expect or want to win, this would be an option for him to do in real life. But of course in reality it is nonsense. I don't for one moment believe that he didn't want to win, or that he doesn't want to be President. If he finds that he is bored or frustrated with the job of being President, then he will delegate most things to other people, and he will go through the motions for four years.
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 10, 2016 23:30:17 GMT
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