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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 17:34:06 GMT
This is a normal American election with a normal result, just that Trump was full on and did not use the tropes
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 9, 2016 17:38:43 GMT
Anyone who's ever followed, or participated in, elections knows that the public can't be trusted. But what's the alternative?
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 9, 2016 17:45:16 GMT
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Post by Strontium Dog on Nov 9, 2016 17:47:33 GMT
Anyone who's ever followed, or participated in, elections knows that the public can't be trusted. Peter Mannion's quote about the public is appropriate here.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 9, 2016 17:48:49 GMT
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 9, 2016 17:51:30 GMT
At which the pig got up and walked away ...
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Post by Pimpernal on Nov 9, 2016 17:53:27 GMT
Tbf to her she must be pretty devastated on a personal level - she has been "preparing for this" most of her adult life. (think how D Miliband felt in 2010, but writ large) Actually, I think E Milliband in 2015 is closer - he was 10 minutes away from expecting to be PM and then that exit poll flashed up... I think Clinto was in the same position - she fully expected to become the US president - and then Ohio flashed up...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 9, 2016 18:25:52 GMT
I'm pretty sure Parris was expressing that view before Trump Parris has been spouting his guff for years now without being rumbled. He'd probably prefer to be court philosopher to an enlightened despot.
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Post by BossMan on Nov 9, 2016 18:48:42 GMT
I'm surprised just how sorry I'm feeling for Hillary Clinton following her defeat as a matter of fact, more so than other defeated political leaders of the past both in the UK and across the pond.
At some point or another Trump is going to meet Theresa May. It will be interesting to see how they get along!
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 9, 2016 18:49:07 GMT
Corbyn doesn't sound entirely unhappy about the result:
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Post by BossMan on Nov 9, 2016 19:09:38 GMT
I would like to congratulate trump and fair play to pjones. Spot on throughout this election while Richard Allen was wrong. Like others I was a lukewarm supporter of trump and in the year of change the establishment has been defeated again. I hope there are no attempts by sore losers to stop a trump presidency like we have seen with brexit. Some members on here should be eating some humble pie right now, but of course they won't. I wonder when the petition for a second presidential election will materialise...
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Post by mrpastelito on Nov 9, 2016 19:42:58 GMT
On the plus side, most of Florida will be put underwater by climate change. Miami Dade, Broward and Palm Beach to go first I suppose.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 9, 2016 19:51:12 GMT
Some members on here should be eating some humble pie right now, but of course they won't. I wonder when the petition for a second presidential election will materialise... Well, in half of the states the November is election is only advisory; when the Electors vote in December they can vote for whomever they please.
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Post by BossMan on Nov 9, 2016 19:52:13 GMT
A word about Gary Johnson. He's only received 3% of the vote so far, which must surely be a disappointment. I had thought he might have managed at least double that. Jill Stein is only on 1% also.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 20:05:07 GMT
I'm pretty sure Parris was expressing that view before Trump Parris has been spouting his guff for years now without being rumbled. He'd probably prefer to be court philosopher to an enlightened despot. Matthew Parris fell in with the Blue Chip Group, and was immortalised in a group portrait which hangs in Hatfield House in (I think) the old kitchen. Since then, like George Nathaniel Curzon, he has regarded himself as a "Most Superior Person".
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Post by mrpastelito on Nov 9, 2016 20:07:39 GMT
A word about Gary Johnson. He's only received 3% of the vote so far, which must surely be a disappointment. I had thought he might have managed at least double that. Jill Stein is only on 1% also. Many Republicans doing what I'd have done in their place - hold your nose and vote Trump rather than waste your vote on Johnson and thus risk a Clinton victory. Which also goes some way to explain why Johnson's best results came in solidly Republican states in the West and Midwest - no risk of a Clinton win there. The notable exception to all of this being Maine.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 9, 2016 20:39:15 GMT
The big question: Hard or Soft Trump.
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 9, 2016 20:47:54 GMT
The more data that I look at the more it is clear that this idea of a "Whitelash" is simplistic at best. Overall it looks Trump's share of the white vote was very similar to Romney's. Clinton clearly under performed with minority voters in several states. In Colorado for example she polled behind Obama in many of the heavily Hispanic counties.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 20:49:02 GMT
The more data that I look at the more it is clear that this idea of a "Whitelash" is simplistic at best. Overall it looks Trump's share of the white vote was very similar to Romney's. Clinton clearly under performed with minority voters in several states. In Colorado for example she polled behind Obama in many of the heavily Hispanic counties.
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Post by Strontium Dog on Nov 9, 2016 20:52:36 GMT
The big question: Hard or Soft Trump. A bit of both. He'll be hard, while the women's parts he advocates groping will be soft.
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