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Post by Merseymike on Dec 16, 2014 14:56:07 GMT
Also, Hillary is by no means unpopular amongst many groups associated with the left. She may be seen as relatively hawkish on foreign affairs but as SofS she was pragmatic.
On social issues, she is a liberal - more so than Bill. She backs gay marriage, and I like her honesty in explaining her journey on this one - and she is pro-choice. And the black community likes Hillary and I expect her to do very well with that contingent this time - it was her bad luck that she was up against Obama last time.
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Post by slicesofjim on Dec 16, 2014 15:50:43 GMT
News that surprises no-one: Jeb Bush explores the possibility of throwing his hat into the ring: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30503524 It seems to me that usually Republicans of his ilk usually struggle in the primaries and give so much ground to the fruit loops that they end up unelectable in the general election (see McCain, J.; Romney, M.). But as a Bush with all that entails in terms of machinery, experience, etc., might he be the exception? |
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Post by mrhell on Dec 16, 2014 16:58:35 GMT
I wish Jeb had stood in 2000 instead of George. Things would have been much better.
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Dec 16, 2014 17:22:20 GMT
News that surprises no-one: Jeb Bush explores the possibility of throwing his hat into the ring: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30503524 It seems to me that usually Republicans of his ilk usually struggle in the primaries and give so much ground to the fruit loops that they end up unelectable in the general election (see McCain, J.; Romney, M.). But as a Bush with all that entails in terms of machinery, experience, etc., might he be the exception? Candid Photo of Jeb Bush:  |
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 16, 2014 17:24:37 GMT
News that surprises no-one: Jeb Bush explores the possibility of throwing his hat into the ring: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30503524 It seems to me that usually Republicans of his ilk usually struggle in the primaries and give so much ground to the fruit loops that they end up unelectable in the general election (see McCain, J.; Romney, M.). But as a Bush with all that entails in terms of machinery, experience, etc., might he be the exception? Everything he has said over the past year indicates that he will not run hard to the right in the primaries. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 16, 2014 17:27:28 GMT
I wish Jeb had stood in 2000 instead of George. Things would have been much better. Jeb was always seen as the political successor to his father but his narrow loss in the 1994 Florida gubernatorial election resulted in his brother leap frogging him. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Dec 16, 2014 17:39:36 GMT
I wish Jeb had stood in 2000 instead of George. Things would have been much better. Because John McCain would've been President? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 17:53:10 GMT
George Bush is the greatest president the US have had in the 21st century.
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Post by mrhell on Dec 16, 2014 18:05:10 GMT
Bush is the third greatest president this century.
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Post by slicesofjim on Dec 16, 2014 18:11:34 GMT
News that surprises no-one: Jeb Bush explores the possibility of throwing his hat into the ring: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30503524 It seems to me that usually Republicans of his ilk usually struggle in the primaries and give so much ground to the fruit loops that they end up unelectable in the general election (see McCain, J.; Romney, M.). But as a Bush with all that entails in terms of machinery, experience, etc., might he be the exception? Everything he has said over the past year indicates that he will not run hard to the right in the primaries. Among Republican primary voters, to what extent will his membership of the Bush clan be a help or a hindrance? |
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Post by slicesofjim on Dec 16, 2014 18:12:21 GMT
Bush is the third greatest president this century. Not the worst though, Cheney was acting president for a short period I think... |
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 17, 2014 0:37:29 GMT
Everything he has said over the past year indicates that he will not run hard to the right in the primaries. Among Republican primary voters, to what extent will his membership of the Bush clan be a help or a hindrance? The Bush name is still a powerful brand in US politics. Overall I think it is a plus but there is now a deep strain of anti-establishment thought in GOP primary voters. The main thing going for Bush is that the moment he declares money will come flooding in and chances are the GOP establishment will coalesce behind him. Romney is unlikely to run as it as and will be far more unlikely if to do so if Bush runs and while Christie is interested he has been damaged by "bridgegate" and would probably also defer to Bush. That being said either could end up as late entries if Bush flames out. |
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Post by neilm on Dec 17, 2014 14:47:29 GMT
I think Christie has got over Bridgegate now.
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 17, 2014 14:55:43 GMT
It has surely done long-term harm, and is the sort of thing that could rear its head again if he does make a genuine POTUS bid.
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 17, 2014 15:10:11 GMT
I think Christie has got over Bridgegate now. He is over it in terms of it being a threat to him continuing as Governor but fairly or not it has clearly harmed his image. |
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Post by slicesofjim on Dec 17, 2014 18:13:22 GMT
Among Republican primary voters, to what extent will his membership of the Bush clan be a help or a hindrance? The Bush name is still a powerful brand in US politics. Overall I think it is a plus but there is now a deep strain of anti-establishment thought in GOP primary voters. The main thing going for Bush is that the moment he declares money will come flooding in and chances are the GOP establishment will coalesce behind him. Romney is unlikely to run as it as and will be far more unlikely if to do so if Bush runs and while Christie is interested he has been damaged by "bridgegate" and would probably also defer to Bush. That being said either could end up as late entries if Bush flames out. Interesting. Looks very much like Bush and Clinton's nominations to lose then, almost a mirror image. |
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Post by sol on Dec 27, 2014 23:40:33 GMT
Bush is also seen as being far too pro-immigration by the GOP base.
Anyway, most of the anti-Hillary leftists are online as opposed to being in reality. She's seen generally as a highly respected, elder statesman-type figure rather than the hyper-partisan type which she has been historically seen as. As far as other candidates, Sanders will probably run and lose. Cuomo could run, simply because he's power-hungry to the point of absolute amorality--but such a candidacy would be a bit like Thaddeus McCotter in success. Cuomo is hated by the more left-wing elements in the party.
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Post by Richard Allen on Jan 4, 2015 0:10:35 GMT
Mike Huckerbee is leaving his Fox News programme in order to explore a Presidential run.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 0:27:22 GMT
Mike Huckerbee is leaving his Fox News programme in order to explore a Presidential run. It's just getting better and better |
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