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Post by spirit on Jun 25, 2021 7:17:05 GMT
Harlech
Birks (No Desc) 154
Hughes (Ind) 153
Owen (PC) 161
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Post by andrewp on Jun 25, 2021 7:32:47 GMT
A hold and a gain - pretty decent night Rather better than that, I would say. The gain in Chi from third place (well done, Cllr Brisbane), the hold in North Curry to keep control of the council. Even in the two no hoper English seats, Swindon and Rugby, we stood a candidate and kept ahead of the Greens! Of course no candidates in the Scottish and Welsh seats, but given that in Harlech that was also true of Labour and the Tories, and in Murdostoun it was a strong win for the Indy, no great damage done there either. To have made it a perfect night we would have really trounced the opposition in Somerset, but in some ways being made to work hard by a determined opposition is no bad thing. I’m surprised the North Curry result was as close as it was, although as has been noted it was caused by the resignation by a Lib Dem councillor of 34 years who clearly had a big personal vote. He resigned because he had wanted the council to go back to the committee system. In my opinion, last weeks result in Old Cleeve was better than this weeks result for the Lib Dem’s. My overall reading of the situation is that 2019 was very much the perfect moment for the Lib Dem’s in Somerset West and Taunton, The previous very unpopular Conservative council has now been replaced by an unpopular Lib Dem one, with a divided Lib Dem group and an unimpressive council leader. They would very likely struggle to win a majority again, although of course it’s likely that 2019 will be the only election for Somerset West and Taunton council. |
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Post by middleenglander on Jun 25, 2021 7:41:40 GMT
Chichester: Chichester East - Liberal Democrat gain from Labour| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | | Liberal Democrat | 430 | 43.0% | +24.7% | +25.4% | | Conservative | 310 | 31.0% | +6.5% | +6.6% | | Labour | 261 | 26.1% | -3.7% | -3.9% | | Green |
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| -9.4% | -9.7% | | Total votes | 1,001 |
| 65% | 66% |
Swing: Labour to Liberal Democrat 14¼% / 14½% since 2019 Council now: 17 Conservative, 11 Liberal Democrat, 3 Independent, 2 Green, 2 Local Alliance, 1 Labour Gwynedd: Harlech - Plaid Cymru gain from Independent| Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2017 | since 2012 | 2008 result | | Plaid Cymru | 161 | 34.4% | -4.4% | -37.2% | unopposed | | No Description Birks | 154 | 32.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere |
| | Independent Hughes | 153 | 32.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere |
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| | Total votes | 468 |
| 62% | 96% | n / a |
Swing: Not meaningful Council now: 40 Plaid Cymru, 20 Independent, 6 Llais Gwynedd, 3 Gwynedd United Independent, 2 Independent Members, 2 Propel, 1 Labour, 1 Liberal Democrat North Lanarkshire: Murdostoun - Independent hold based on first preference votes | Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2017 | | since 2012 * | since 2007 * | | Independent McKendrick | 1,504 | 41.3% | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | | SNP | 884 | 24.3% | -3.7% |
| -1.8% | +6.0% | | Labour | 617 | 16.9% | -6.8% |
| -19.1% | -23.2% | | Independent Arthur | 293 | 8.0% | +5.6% |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | | Conservative | 264 | 7.2% | -5.7% |
| +1.4% | -1.2% | | Green | 61 | 1.7% | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independence for Scotland | 14 | 0.4% | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | | Reform | 7 | 0.2% | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | | Elected Independent |
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| -32.1% | -15.0% | | Other Independents |
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| 57% |
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* minor boundary changes Swing: Not meaningful, although the son elected tonight polled a higher share that his father did in his previous elections Council now: 31 Labour, 27 SNP, 9 Independent, 8 Conservative, 2 Alba Rugby: Wolvey & Shilton - Conservative hold | Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2018 | since 2014 | since 2012 | | Conservative | 370 | 76.6% | +1.6% | +9.1% | +9.2% | | Labour | 60 | 12.4% | -12.6% | -8.8% | -20.2% | | Liberal Democrat | 29 | 6.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green | 24 | 5.0% | from nowhere | -6.3% | from nowhere | | Total votes | 483 |
| 65% | 60% | 70% |
Swing: Labour to Conservative 7% since 2018, 9% since 2014 and 14¾% since 2012 Council now: 25 Conservative, 9 Liberal Democrat, 8 Labour Somerset West & Taunton: North Curry & Ruishton - Liberal Democrat hold | Party | 2021 votes | 2021 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | | Liberal Democrat | 798 | 49.6% | -25.4% | -23.6% | | Conservative | 678 | 42.1% | +17.1% | +15.3% | | Green | 133 | 8.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Total votes | 1,609 |
| 89% | 96% |
Swing: Liberal Democrat to Conservative 21¼% / 19½% since 2019 Council now: 30 Liberal Democrat, 13 Independent, 10 Conservative, 3 Labour, 2 Green, 1 Non-aligned Swindon: Priory Vale - Conservative hold | Party | 2021 B votes | 2021 B share | since 2021 | since 2019 | since 2018 | since 2016 | | Conservative | 1,139 | 60.6% | +6.4% | +1.2% | +1.9% | +5.8% | | Labour | 508 | 27.0% | -5.8% | -13.5% | -2.2% | +2.6% | | Liberal Democrat | 102 | 5.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | +1.1% | +1.2% | | Green | 83 | 4.4% | -3.4% | from nowhere | -0.9% | +0.4% | | Independent | 47 | 2.5% | -2.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | UKIP |
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| -2.5% | -12.5% | | Total votes | 1,879 |
| 69% | 89% | 69% | 91% |
Swing: Labour to Conservative 6% since May, 7¼% since 2019, 2% since 2018 and 1½% since 2016 Council now: 37 Conservative, 20 Labour
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 25, 2021 7:57:39 GMT
Harlech Birks (No Desc) 154 Hughes (Ind) 153 Owen (PC) 161 So the carrier pigeon has finally limped over from Harlech.... |
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Post by andrewteale on Jun 25, 2021 8:32:20 GMT
Harlech Birks (No Desc) 154 Hughes (Ind) 153 Owen (PC) 161 So the carrier pigeon has finally limped over from Harlech.... It got intercepted by Rover while flying over The Village towards the council offices in Caernarfon. |
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Post by middleenglander on Jun 25, 2021 9:13:01 GMT
So the carrier pigeon has finally limped over from Harlech.... It got intercepted by Rover while flying over The Village towards the council offices in Caernarfon. We did know the result some 10 minutes before midnight although the actual figures were only published on the Council's twitter at 06.56 this morning. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 25, 2021 9:21:32 GMT
So the carrier pigeon has finally limped over from Harlech.... It got intercepted by Rover while flying over The Village towards the council offices in Caernarfon. It had injured its wing so was travelling by foot and has only just managed to get to the top of Fford pen Lech! |
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Post by samdwebber on Jun 25, 2021 10:22:10 GMT
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Post by ricmk on Jun 25, 2021 10:30:48 GMT
Harlech Birks (No Desc) 154 Hughes (Ind) 153 Owen (PC) 161 Mr Owen must be relieved this was under FPTP, as surely he would have been sunk on any preferencing. Also that the votes for the two non-party candidates were perfectly balanced. That must be one of the weakest electoral mandates a councillor has ever received. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 25, 2021 10:40:12 GMT
Harlech Birks (No Desc) 154 Hughes (Ind) 153 Owen (PC) 161 Mr Owen must be relieved this was under FPTP, as surely he would have been sunk on any preferencing. Also that the votes for the two non-party candidates were perfectly balanced. That must be one of the weakest electoral mandates a councillor has ever received. But with two independent candidates, who knows? What were the platforms of the two independents? |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 25, 2021 11:03:34 GMT
I would surmise there have been even closer 3-way finishes than that in the past, I suppose the answer is in LEAP somewhere?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 25, 2021 11:07:36 GMT
I would surmise there have been even closer 3-way finishes than that in the past, I suppose the answer is in LEAP somewhere? Three Rivers, Northwick 2008 Malcolm Butwick Con 284 33.7% Len Tippen Lab 282 33.5% Jeremy Asquith LD 276 32.8% (Plaid got 34.4% in this election) Of course there will be plenty with more than three candidates where the winning percentage will be much lower |
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Post by arnieg on Jun 25, 2021 11:52:17 GMT
Castle ward Leicester 2003:
(for third seat in 3 member ward; first two seats to Lab and Lib Dem)
Lab 708 (won on drawing of lots)
Green 708
Lib Dem 707.
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Post by Terry Weldon on Jun 25, 2021 13:19:39 GMT
I would surmise there have been even closer 3-way finishes than that in the past, I suppose the answer is in LEAP somewhere? Can't beat the Leicester result, but in Hindhead ward for Waverley BC May 2019: Jerome Davidson Liberal Democrats 544 Elected Peter Isherwood Conservative 542 Elected (drawn by lot) Geoffrey Whitby Liberal Democrats 542 Not elected Gerrard Hall Conservative 437 Not elected David George Irwin Labour 79 Not elected Geoff Whitby's comment on the result, after he had seen the schedule of meetings for the elected borough councillors, was that he'd had "a lucky escape". |
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Post by johng on Jun 25, 2021 14:14:41 GMT
Harlech Birks (No Desc) 154 Hughes (Ind) 153 Owen (PC) 161 Mr Owen must be relieved this was under FPTP, as surely he would have been sunk on any preferencing. Also that the votes for the two non-party candidates were perfectly balanced. That must be one of the weakest electoral mandates a councillor has ever received. You never know in rural Wales.
I still find it amazing that the previous Plaid councilor (1999-2016) was unopposed from when he first ran in 1999 until 2008, and in 2012 he only faced a Plaid splitter-group candidate. He clearly had a strong local following, but he/ Plaid obviously weren't tactical enough to announce his retirement on nomination closing day to avoid too much competition. More people ran in 2016 than in every election combined 1995-2012.
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Post by middleenglander on Jun 25, 2021 14:17:46 GMT
A quick shout for the last of the elections postponed from 6 May - the election of 15 parish councillors in Shotton, County Durham - not to be confused with Shotton Town Council in Flintshire. Back in 2017, the result was Independent 7, Lab 7, North East Party 1 - and the parish council elected an Independent chairman. This year, 15 candidates were nominated with the description "Supporting Change in Shotton Colliery" and there were 11 Labour candidates. The poll was countermanded following the death of sitting Labour councillor, Ray Turnbull. He has been replaced by a new Labour candidate, Kate Huntington, but otherwise there is no change in the line-up of candidates. The parish combines with neighbouring parishes, Haswell and South Hetton, to form the Shotton and South Hetton division of Durham County Council. The division elected 1 Labour and 1 Independent in 2017, both of whom were also Shotton parish councillors. On 6 May, the division voted in two Independents by 1084/840 over 593/471 for Labour - one Independent gain from Labour. Successful County Council Independent, Ivan Cochrane, was re-elected and is seeking re-election to the parish council as "Supporting Change for Shotton Colliery". Both defeated county council Labour candidates, Kylie Austin Young and Alan Liversidge, are seeking election to the parish council. Kylie Austin Young, now Labour, was elected to the parish council as an Independent in 2017 and Alan Liversidge failed to be elected to the parish council in 2017. The results just announced show 14 of the 15 "Supporting Change in Shotton Colliery" candidates were elected whilst Rona Hardy was the only Labour one to be successful. The 15 "Supporting Change in Shotton Colliery" polled between 517 votes and 306, the highest being Ivan Cochrane, the recently re-elected Independent for Durham Council, and second Thomas Blakey, the recent Parish Council Chairman. The 11 Labour candidates polled between 359 and 127 with Rona Hardy having previously been a Parish Councillor elected in 2013 and 2017 and only one other candidate (neither of the two defeated Durham Council candidates) coming close to being elected. |
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Post by tonyhill on Jun 26, 2021 6:18:07 GMT
"Wifey"? It's not the 1950s.
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Post by froome on Jun 26, 2021 6:29:47 GMT
Castle ward Leicester 2003: (for third seat in 3 member ward; first two seats to Lab and Lib Dem) Lab 708 (won on drawing of lots) Green 708 Lib Dem 707. Yes, I remember that nail bitingly close result. I assume at the following election, the Lib Dem's leaflets will have said it was a two horse race and that only they can beat Labour here. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 26, 2021 9:40:19 GMT
I would surmise there have been even closer 3-way finishes than that in the past, I suppose the answer is in LEAP somewhere? Three Rivers, Northwick 2008 Malcolm Butwick Con 284 33.7% Len Tippen Lab 282 33.5% Jeremy Asquith LD 276 32.8% (Plaid got 34.4% in this election) Of course there will be plenty with more than three candidates where the winning percentage will be much lowerIndeed, and the record there (in Cornwall possibly?) was well below 20%. Though tbh I am thinking here about simple 3-way contests such as the one you cited. |
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Post by iain on Jun 26, 2021 10:43:38 GMT
Three Rivers, Northwick 2008 Malcolm Butwick Con 284 33.7% Len Tippen Lab 282 33.5% Jeremy Asquith LD 276 32.8% (Plaid got 34.4% in this election) Of course there will be plenty with more than three candidates where the winning percentage will be much lowerIndeed, and the record there (in Cornwall possibly?) was well below 20%. Though tbh I am thinking here about simple 3-way contests such as the one you cited. What was the winning percentage in Spennymoor (by-election) from a couple of years ago? Think it was under 20%. |
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