CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 6, 2021 10:45:54 GMT
I think that should read "Mother of all fund-raising campaigns".
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 6, 2021 10:48:34 GMT
I think that should read "Mother of all fund-raising campaigns". He came third.
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Post by timrollpickering on Jul 6, 2021 10:58:39 GMT
Yes an election petition case is really likely to lead to a major earthquake in jurisprudence and redefine how law in general is interpreted for generations to come.
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 6, 2021 11:00:54 GMT
I think that should read "Mother of all fund-raising campaigns". He came third. No, in his mind he came second. There were only two candidates, him and Starmer, and Starmer won. This is a clear cut abuse of electoral law, for a candidate to beat Galloway without being on the ballot paper. Open and shut case.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 6, 2021 11:01:40 GMT
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Post by grahammurray on Jul 6, 2021 11:08:11 GMT
I think that should read "Mother of all fund-raising campaigns". He came third. Coming third doesn't mean he can't launch this case. In fact you can even win and take action against an opponent under this legislation. I still can't see how it covers any of what he's complaining about though.
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 6, 2021 12:47:57 GMT
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Post by stb12 on Jul 6, 2021 16:42:40 GMT
Was he not meant to be taking legal action after Bradford West 2015?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 19:12:46 GMT
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 9, 2021 19:22:32 GMT
Galloway has launched his legal action to overturn the result. He says he wouldn't be a candidate in a rerun. Put or shut up time for Catman.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 19:30:01 GMT
Galloway has launched his legal action to overturn the result. He says he wouldn't be a candidate in a rerun. Put or shut up time for Catman. It's such a bizarre video, I saw it this morning and wondered why he was acting like this
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jul 9, 2021 19:31:44 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 9, 2021 19:38:58 GMT
Galloway has launched his legal action to overturn the result. He says he wouldn't be a candidate in a rerun. Put or shut up time for Catman. It's such a bizarre video, I saw it this morning and wondered why he was acting like this Everybody hates him, but he doesn't care?
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 9, 2021 19:44:17 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Jul 9, 2021 19:58:52 GMT
Galloway has launched his legal action to overturn the result. He says he wouldn't be a candidate in a rerun. Put or shut up time for Catman. Can someone not #BlockedByGalloway ask if he'll post the petition online to aid transparency in the case?
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Post by lefty on Jul 10, 2021 4:04:14 GMT
That's some 5D chess. What a load of nonsense. Murdoch likes Kieth, he might have lost the leadership if he lost the by election. I don't know if the Sun sat on the story or not but If Murdoch wants to keep his influence within the Labour party and sitting on this story made that difference do you think he wouldn't have done it? I don't want to impugn on the honour of Mr Murdoch but I do believe he may be susceptible to using his media empire to wield political influence, bit of a fringe theory I know but some believe his interests may not purely lie within a love for the journalistic search for the truth. If you are one of those conspiracy theorists who doesn't believe Murdoch to be a pure soul unwilling to use his outsized influence would it really be nuts for him to sit on a story for a few days to boost his political influence? I don't know, I fortunately don't work for Rupert Murdoch in any capacity, but given what I know about Murdoch the idea he would use his media in a way to help his influence seems as likely as the sun rising in the sky the next day.
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 10, 2021 8:49:33 GMT
Its really overthinking things to suggest the possible effect on a byelection was a primary motivation in breaking that story when they did.
For one thing, the right wing press has mostly never liked Hancock and had long wanted an excuse to be shot of him. For another, any electoral impact would surely have been maximised by releasing the news a couple of weeks earlier - both to cover postal votes and to allow more time for a narrative unfavourable to the government to develop.
No, not convinced. And anyway it only just "worked".
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Post by lefty on Jul 10, 2021 15:30:32 GMT
Impossible for me to know either way and not something I feel very strongly on but my argument is there could certainly be a motive for doing so and the people involved are willing to use their influence.
Basically they have a motive, opportunity and a record of being willing use their influence (if not this exact scenario) although that doesn't actually mean they did commit the 'crime'
There are too many variables for someone to very confidently do something like this and know how it is going to play out but that doesn't mean people would definitely not try.
In terms of wanting rid of Hancock, clearly he hasn't got the right friends in high places but that would be one of a number of things of the right wing media would want which presumably they have to balance off against each other.
Taking it back to the original tweet Is it that he alleges that the Sun had the story for a few days or do we know whether this is true or not or the implication he makes from that?
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Post by andrew111 on Jul 10, 2021 15:44:56 GMT
Impossible for me to know either way and not something I feel very strongly on but my argument is there could certainly be a motive for doing so and the people involved are willing to use their influence. Basically they have a motive, opportunity and a record of being willing use their influence (if not this exact scenario) although that doesn't actually mean they did commit the 'crime' There are too many variables for someone to very confidently do something like this and know how it is going to play out but that doesn't mean people would definitely not try. In terms of wanting rid of Hancock, clearly he hasn't got the right friends in high places but that would be one of a number of things of the right wing media would want which presumably they have to balance off against each other. Taking it back to the original tweet Is it that he alleges that the Sun had the story for a few days or do we know whether this is true or not or the implication he makes from that? I think the main motivation of any paper with a story like that is to get it out before any of their rivals. The incident happened well before but that is more likely a delay in the employee (assumed) releasing it and possibly negotiating a significant fee, esp. given the risk to their job. Personally I don't think Batley and Spen (where everyone in the bubble assumed the Tories would win anyway) came into it..
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 10, 2021 16:08:15 GMT
Impossible for me to know either way and not something I feel very strongly on but my argument is there could certainly be a motive for doing so and the people involved are willing to use their influence. Basically they have a motive, opportunity and a record of being willing use their influence (if not this exact scenario) although that doesn't actually mean they did commit the 'crime' There are too many variables for someone to very confidently do something like this and know how it is going to play out but that doesn't mean people would definitely not try. In terms of wanting rid of Hancock, clearly he hasn't got the right friends in high places but that would be one of a number of things of the right wing media would want which presumably they have to balance off against each other. Taking it back to the original tweet Is it that he alleges that the Sun had the story for a few days or do we know whether this is true or not or the implication he makes from that? I think the main motivation of any paper with a story like that is to get it out before any of their rivals. The incident happened well before but that is more likely a delay in the employee (assumed) releasing it and possibly negotiating a significant fee, esp. given the risk to their job. Personally I don't think Batley and Spen (where everyone in the bubble assumed the Tories would win anyway) came into it.. The cock eyed desperation of the left to try and prove that the result is down to the Rupert Murdoch trying to help Labour, while also taking out Hancock and therefore allowing the Tories to lift all restrictions and 'own freedom' is something to behold. Lewis Carroll would have been ashamed.
I do wonder if when Johnson said Hancock was an idiot it was his affair he was alluding to rather than his lack of competence in a job which he, after all appointed him to, and kept him in for a considerable time.
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