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Post by andrew111 on Sept 25, 2021 17:58:45 GMT
Do we have a thread on the use of brackets in sentences?  |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 25, 2021 18:27:54 GMT
Do we have a thread on the use of brackets in sentences? If you want a political connection for the dear ladies, Gyles Brandreth was at one time a scriptwriter for them. |
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Terry Weldon
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Post by Terry Weldon on Sept 27, 2021 23:19:36 GMT
The Haslemere NP referendum is next week, Oct 7th. Local LibDems have been pushing hard for a yes vote, featuring it in our current FOCUS. We feel the local Tories have shot themselves in the foot, by repeatedly trying to amend the NP, developed after many years of extensive research and public consultation, to permit a controversial development on a greenfield AONB/ALGV site on the edge of the town.LibDems have actively opposed the plan, which has now been rejected by the borough.
One mark of public interest was May's county council election, when we took the county division for the first time in 50 years, with a 50% SoV, and a 40% turnout. In the most directly affected PD, turnout was 60%, high for a local election. My main interest next week, will be just the level of turnout.
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Post by peterl on Oct 1, 2021 13:12:08 GMT
Wareham, Dorset will vote on a neighbourhood plan on September 30th. Yes 1,145 No 120 Turnout 26.8% |
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Post by middleenglander on Oct 4, 2021 22:19:54 GMT
Ombersley & Doverdale (Mid Worcestershire Constituency)
30 September 2021
Yes 473 - 92.2%
No 39 - 7.6%
Void 1
Electorate 2,035
Turnout 25.2%
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Terry Weldon
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Post by Terry Weldon on Oct 9, 2021 16:46:59 GMT
Result from Haslemere (Waverley BC, SW Surrey), October 7th
Yes 2392 (87%)
No 346 (13%)
Rejected 9
Turnout 21%
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Post by John Chanin on Oct 9, 2021 17:04:45 GMT
I can’t recall a neighbourhood plan referendum where people voted no. This suggests to me that both plans and referendums are cosmetic and have little practical effect.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 9, 2021 17:32:30 GMT
I can’t recall a neighbourhood plan referendum where people voted no. This suggests to me that both plans and referendums are cosmetic and have little practical effect. It would be entertaining to organise a successful no campaign, for history's sake. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 9, 2021 17:42:00 GMT
I can’t recall a neighbourhood plan referendum where people voted no. This suggests to me that both plans and referendums are cosmetic and have little practical effect. It would be entertaining to organise a successful no campaign, for history's sake. Referred to the Forum's projects team for consideration. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 9, 2021 17:54:16 GMT
I can’t recall a neighbourhood plan referendum where people voted no. This suggests to me that both plans and referendums are cosmetic and have little practical effect. It would be entertaining to organise a successful no campaign, for history's sake. Please don't*. They are generally the product of several years of work by local volunteers (and several thousand pounds of public money). I have been told of at least three two "No" votes; I'm reasonably familiar with one of them and my understanding is as follows. The Borough Council seats were held by Independents who had been closely involved in working on the Plan (possibly an error of judgement). They made the mistake also of holding the referendum in the run-up to the Borough Council elections. A political party - I won't identify which - campaigned hard against the NP and secured a No vote, and went on to win the Borough Council seats. So, from their point of view, a success. But that area now has no NP and is susceptible to more developer-led development than might otherwise have been the case. And the chances of getting local volunteers to participate in a further attempt? * I assume it was a tongue in cheek comment, but even so. |
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Post by ricmk on Oct 9, 2021 18:54:41 GMT
I can’t recall a neighbourhood plan referendum where people voted no. This suggests to me that both plans and referendums are cosmetic and have little practical effect. I looked into these a while back. The first neighbourhood plan rejected at referendum was Swanwick in Derbyshire. The draft plan put in large ‘no development’ zones, the inspector insisted they were removed, to the point where those behind the plan no longer supported it, but bizarrely the vote went ahead anyway. More at andrewlainton.wordpress.com/2016/10/25/first-neighbourhood-plan-rejected-at-referendum-give-a-medal-to-its-examiner-nigel-mc-gurk/amp/Another in Middlewich in Cheshire - don’t know a great deal about this but there was an organised ‘no’ campaign. One in MK - North Crawley a beautiful village proposed a plan with a small amount of housing, but there was a majority for ‘no housing’ (of course the rejected plan simply meant applications considered against borough policies) more here if interested www.northcrawley-pc.gov.uk/Article/Detail.aspx?ArticleUid=C11D78D3-FAC2-4E43-B306-7C6043F89F01We had a further much larger plan which squeaked through referendum closer than 51:49 again outside the main MK area. www.milton-keynes.gov.uk/planning-and-building/planning-policy/olney-neighbourhood-planAgain there was an organised ‘no’ campaign, which always seems to be a sign that a plan is in trouble. The Olney one was particularly frustrating as about 2 years later we had an application for (care) housing on a site not allocated for housing, and refused it due to conflict with the neighbourhood plan. Then lost on appeal - sigh. A real slap in the face for the people who took a local plan containing plenty of housing through a controversial referendum. A really poor decision.by the inspector in my view. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 20:02:51 GMT
My village had a neighbourhood plan referendum in May. Wanting to make an informed decision, and also wanting to be able to answer questions if it came up on the doorstep, I tried to read the plan.
Three pages in, I got bored, then decided that whatever was in it would better than not having a plan so I would vote yes anyway, and gave up
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 9, 2021 21:39:13 GMT
My village had a neighbourhood plan referendum in May. Wanting to make an informed decision, and also wanting to be able to answer questions if it came up on the doorstep, I tried to read the plan. Three pages in, I got bored, then decided that whatever was in it would better than not having a plan so I would vote yes anyway, and gave up The legislation requires the Plan itself to include a whole host of stuff; any sensible Plan will include an Executive Summary. The Group I've been working with have spent hours trying to draw up a summary. "We need a summary people will be able to read."
"No more than a single page of A4 max."
"I'll draw something up for next week."
"How did it go?"
"I've got it down to three pages."
"Yes, but you've missed out Policies 5 and 8."
"S**t!" |
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Post by southernliberal on Oct 9, 2021 21:43:48 GMT
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Post by ricmk on Oct 10, 2021 2:42:31 GMT
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Post by ricmk on Oct 10, 2021 3:04:39 GMT
9,000 votes, bigger than most, sure. Want to see one with more than 100,000 votes? Q: What do you get when you cross a (understandable but marginal) decision that a neighbourhood plan affects the whole borough so needs to be voted on borough-wide, with a general election on the same day? A: The most confusion I’ve ever seen in polling stations. Everyone turning up to vote for national and local, and being given the extra ballot papers but no one at the polling station, tellers not count staff, was allowed to talk about the merits of the plan. The Central Milton Keynes neighbourhood plan: www.milton-keynes.gov.uk/planning-and-building/planning-policy/central-milton-keynes-neighbourhood-planActual voting figures were 89,801 residents voting Yes and 17,133 voting No. 6% of ballot papers were rejected, with the majority left blank. |
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Post by andykernow on Oct 18, 2021 8:48:43 GMT
The latest three NPR Results for Cornwall
St Austell Bay
Yes - 243 (92.4%)
No - 20 (7.6%)
Turnout 23.34%
St Sampson
Yes - 89 (97.8%)
No - 2 (2.2%)
Turnout 49.3%
Tywardreath & Par
Yes - 517 (90.86%)
No - 50 (8.78%)
Turnout 21.6%
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 18, 2021 9:19:06 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 21, 2021 22:09:26 GMT
Queen's Park has voted 91% Yes.
Yes 702
No 66
Rejected votes 7
Turnout 9.11%
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 5, 2021 20:56:32 GMT
Betley, Balterley & Wrinehill Neighbourhood Development Plan Referendum - Thursday 16th December. Please, vote early, vote often.  |
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