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Post by michaelarden on Apr 8, 2021 22:06:06 GMT
Kingston: Chessington South www.kingston.gov.uk/downloads/file/695/statement-of-persons-nominatedNineteen (19!) candidates: ACHENBACH BARON VON The Official Monster Raving Loony Party AKINTOYE MICHELLE Chessington Matters - Kingston Independent Residents Group BAMFORD CHARLES ST JOHN Labour Party BRUNSKILL UNDERTAKING DIRECTOR The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CHINNERS A.GENT The Official Monster Raving Loony Party COILY CAPTAIN The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CORINTHIAN CASUAL COUNT OF The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CRAMPS COLONEL The Official Monster Raving Loony Party DODD DUKE DIDDY The Official Monster Raving Loony Party LUCKY LANDLADY The Official Monster Raving Loony Party LULHAM ADRIAN THOMAS The Green Party MACKINLAY ANDREW STUART Liberal Democrats NEWT KINGSTONIAN The Official Monster Raving Loony Party PITHER LADY DAVE The Official Monster Raving Loony Party ROVER LANDLORD The Official Monster Raving Loony Party SAVASTIO ITALO MARCO Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition SQUATCH SAM JOSHUA The Official Monster Raving Loony Party THE RADICAL RECYCLIST REV. ROBBIE The Official Monster Raving Loony Party TOWNER SUE Local Conservatives Charles Bamford is the son of Patricia Bamford the former Lib Dem councillor whose resignation caused the vacancy. Andrew MacKinlay is the former Labour MP for Thurrock just to add to the surreal nature of the contest. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 8, 2021 22:22:21 GMT
Andrew Mackinlay was Labour councillor for Tolworth West 1971-78.
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Kingston: Chessington South www.kingston.gov.uk/downloads/file/695/statement-of-persons-nominatedNineteen (19!) candidates: ACHENBACH BARON VON The Official Monster Raving Loony Party AKINTOYE MICHELLE Chessington Matters - Kingston Independent Residents Group BAMFORD CHARLES ST JOHN Labour Party BRUNSKILL UNDERTAKING DIRECTOR The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CHINNERS A.GENT The Official Monster Raving Loony Party COILY CAPTAIN The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CORINTHIAN CASUAL COUNT OF The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CRAMPS COLONEL The Official Monster Raving Loony Party DODD DUKE DIDDY The Official Monster Raving Loony Party LUCKY LANDLADY The Official Monster Raving Loony Party LULHAM ADRIAN THOMAS The Green Party MACKINLAY ANDREW STUART Liberal Democrats NEWT KINGSTONIAN The Official Monster Raving Loony Party PITHER LADY DAVE The Official Monster Raving Loony Party ROVER LANDLORD The Official Monster Raving Loony Party SAVASTIO ITALO MARCO Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition SQUATCH SAM JOSHUA The Official Monster Raving Loony Party THE RADICAL RECYCLIST REV. ROBBIE The Official Monster Raving Loony Party TOWNER SUE Local Conservatives Does anyone know why? Good grief, it's the Loonies do you really think there's a reason? |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 9, 2021 0:00:37 GMT
Will all those nominations be valid? I assumed that one party could only nominate one candidate for a single member vacancy? No such law. A single candidate cannot contest multiple electoral areas within the same authority, but there's nothing to stop a single party authorising multiple candidates far exceeding the number of seats to be elected. (After all, why would you stop someone doing something that's so obviously not in their interests?) Odd that you would ask such a question. Some people might think that it is not in the interests of the voters to be cluttered up with a long ballot paper full of lots of frivolous candidates. Anyway, it is not accurate to say that it is "obviously not in their interests". The interests of the OMRLP in this case are quite obviously (a) to have fun (b) to get publicity (c) not to worry about winning. Having lots of candidates and therefore splitting the vote from each other is therefore not a problem. We also knew already that it is possible for a party to have more candidates than vacancies. The OMRLP did it before in Elmbridge with 9 candidates in one ward, and even the Labour Party managed to have 2 candidates in one ward by mistake a few years ago, somewhere in the North East. One point is that in Elmbridge the 9 OMRLP candidates all managed to get votes; with 13 candidates it is more possible that some of them will end up with 0 votes - which is also one of the things they might be aiming to achieve. |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 9, 2021 0:15:52 GMT
Either the Croydon Council website is being awkward, or my iPad is being awkward, or both, but for whatever reason I still haven't seen the SOPN for the 5 by-elections in Croydon. But from what I have harvested from Twitter and otherwise, here is what I know about the candidates so far:
Kenley
Ola Kolade (Con)
Esther Sutton (Green)
New Addington North
Kola Agboola (Lab)
Lara Fish (Con)
Michael Castle (Ind)
Tracey Hague (Green)
Park Hill & Whitgift
Jade Appleton (Con)
Christina Reshekaron (Lab)
Catherine Graham (Green)
South Norwood
Louis Carserides (Lab)
Sonia Marinello (Con)
Ria Patel (Green)
Jane Nicholl (PRSN)
Woodside
Mike Bonello (Lab)
Michelle Kazi (Con)
Peter Underwood (Green)
Ian Bône (PRSN)
PRSN = People's Republic of South Norwood - presumably their actual description will be "Independent"
I have searched Twitter and I can't find any references at all to any Lib Dem candidates standing in any of the by-elections in Croydon, what their names are, or even if there are any at all. The Lib Dems in Croydon are much less organised, less visible, less active than any of the other 3 main parties. I haven't seen any references or announcements about who the Labour candidate is in Kenley (a very safe Conservative ward) but there no doubt is one. There is probably not a BNP candidate in New Addington North, but if there is one it would probably be one of the Clarke brothers.
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Post by heslingtonian on Apr 9, 2021 7:30:09 GMT
Kingston: Chessington South www.kingston.gov.uk/downloads/file/695/statement-of-persons-nominatedNineteen (19!) candidates: ACHENBACH BARON VON The Official Monster Raving Loony Party AKINTOYE MICHELLE Chessington Matters - Kingston Independent Residents Group BAMFORD CHARLES ST JOHN Labour Party BRUNSKILL UNDERTAKING DIRECTOR The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CHINNERS A.GENT The Official Monster Raving Loony Party COILY CAPTAIN The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CORINTHIAN CASUAL COUNT OF The Official Monster Raving Loony Party CRAMPS COLONEL The Official Monster Raving Loony Party DODD DUKE DIDDY The Official Monster Raving Loony Party LUCKY LANDLADY The Official Monster Raving Loony Party LULHAM ADRIAN THOMAS The Green Party MACKINLAY ANDREW STUART Liberal Democrats NEWT KINGSTONIAN The Official Monster Raving Loony Party PITHER LADY DAVE The Official Monster Raving Loony Party ROVER LANDLORD The Official Monster Raving Loony Party SAVASTIO ITALO MARCO Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition SQUATCH SAM JOSHUA The Official Monster Raving Loony Party THE RADICAL RECYCLIST REV. ROBBIE The Official Monster Raving Loony Party TOWNER SUE Local Conservatives Arguably the most bizarre aspect of that is a Labour candidate with a middle name of St John! Is he related to the Bamfords who own JCB and who are big Conservative donors? |
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 9, 2021 8:56:18 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 9, 2021 9:06:19 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 9, 2021 9:06:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 9:34:11 GMT
No such law. A single candidate cannot contest multiple electoral areas within the same authority, but there's nothing to stop a single party authorising multiple candidates far exceeding the number of seats to be elected. (After all, why would you stop someone doing something that's so obviously not in their interests?) Odd that you would ask such a question. Some people might think that it is not in the interests of the voters to be cluttered up with a long ballot paper full of lots of frivolous candidates. Anyway, it is not accurate to say that it is "obviously not in their interests". The interests of the OMRLP in this case are quite obviously (a) to have fun (b) to get publicity (c) not to worry about winning. Having lots of candidates and therefore splitting the vote from each other is therefore not a problem. We also knew already that it is possible for a party to have more candidates than vacancies. The OMRLP did it before in Elmbridge with 9 candidates in one ward, and even the Labour Party managed to have 2 candidates in one ward by mistake a few years ago, somewhere in the North East. One point is that in Elmbridge the 9 OMRLP candidates all managed to get votes; with 13 candidates it is more possible that some of them will end up with 0 votes - which is also one of the things they might be aiming to achieve. If I remember correctly, the Labour example was in a coastal ward in North Yorkshire (near or in Scarborough, perhaps?) which was partly in one constituency and partly in another and both CLPs thought that they were responsible for selecting a candidate. In my head I remember it being a county council election (which would make it much more likely for a ward to be in two constituencies, as well), but I think it was more recently than 2017 and I don't think it was a by-election. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 9, 2021 9:53:41 GMT
Odd that you would ask such a question. Some people might think that it is not in the interests of the voters to be cluttered up with a long ballot paper full of lots of frivolous candidates. Anyway, it is not accurate to say that it is "obviously not in their interests". The interests of the OMRLP in this case are quite obviously (a) to have fun (b) to get publicity (c) not to worry about winning. Having lots of candidates and therefore splitting the vote from each other is therefore not a problem. We also knew already that it is possible for a party to have more candidates than vacancies. The OMRLP did it before in Elmbridge with 9 candidates in one ward, and even the Labour Party managed to have 2 candidates in one ward by mistake a few years ago, somewhere in the North East. One point is that in Elmbridge the 9 OMRLP candidates all managed to get votes; with 13 candidates it is more possible that some of them will end up with 0 votes - which is also one of the things they might be aiming to achieve. If I remember correctly, the Labour example was in a coastal ward in North Yorkshire (near or in Scarborough, perhaps?) which was partly in one constituency and partly in another and both CLPs thought that they were responsible for selecting a candidate. In my head I remember it being a county council election (which would make it much more likely for a ward to be in two constituencies, as well), but I think it was more recently than 2017 and I don't think it was a by-election. Hertford & Clayton county division in 2017: mdfs.net/Docs/Whitby/Election/2017/NYCCList.htm Along with Filey is in Thirsk & Malton constituency, so a confusion between the Whitby & Scarborough party and the T&M party. I've always thought it daft for parties to be organised on constituencies, council areas makes much more sense (and Sheffield reorganised into a single Sheffield party about ten years ago (though I think with a Penistone annex)). |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 9, 2021 9:57:13 GMT
Will all those nominations be valid? I assumed that one party could only nominate one candidate for a single member vacancy? Parties don't nominate, electors nominate. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 9, 2021 10:03:11 GMT
Is this People Before Profit the same outfit that has been leeching votes from Sinn Fein in Norn Iron? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 9, 2021 10:04:10 GMT
Lewisham Bellingham ONIKOSI Rachel Labour and Co-operative Party Former councillor for Sydenham ward (2014-18). |
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