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Post by bsjmcr on Jan 9, 2022 19:30:06 GMT
Looks like sharing your surname with the constituency’s name doesn’t seem to pay any additional dividends (“Buchan for Buchan?”) - the Labour candidate in Dudley North was called Dudley and lost on a large swing. If Banff and Buchan works like most two name constituencies I know, any votes gained by Buchan in Buchan would have to been offset by the ones lost in Banff. Heywood and Middleton are both common enough surnames! Be funny if the two main parties stood a Heywood against a Middleton. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jan 9, 2022 19:54:22 GMT
Jimmy Buchan celebrity fisherman achieved a big swing from the SNP to the Tories in Banff and Buchan after Alex Salmond stood down in 2010. Still a few thousand short or winning but the seat did of course end up being gained by the Tories just seven years later, probably due to Brexit Looks like sharing your surname with the constituency’s name doesn’t seem to pay any additional dividends (“Buchan for Buchan?”) - the Labour candidate in Dudley North was called Dudley and lost on a large swing. Deirdre East-Kilbride-Strathaven-and-Lesmahagow always had derisory results when she stood. Probably didn’t help that she always stood in Banbury. |
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Post by grahammurray on Jan 9, 2022 20:35:53 GMT
If Banff and Buchan works like most two name constituencies I know, any votes gained by Buchan in Buchan would have to been offset by the ones lost in Banff. Heywood and Middleton are both common enough surnames! Be funny if the two main parties stood a Heywood against a Middleton. A trick that Labour missed. www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/1786390.claire-19-stands-for-parliament/ |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jan 9, 2022 21:11:04 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jan 13, 2022 11:00:57 GMT
Hugh Pym (BBC economics editor) contested Wiltshire North for the LDs in 2001. A cousin, it seems, of former Foreign Secretary Francis Pym. |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jan 13, 2022 11:18:36 GMT
Hugh Pym (BBC economics editor) contested Wiltshire North for the LDs in 2001. A cousin, it seems, of former Foreign Secretary Francis Pym. All wets together |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 13, 2022 14:24:51 GMT
Aren't they also descendants of Civil War era politician John Pym, one of the 'five members' Charles I tried to collar?
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Post by bsjmcr on Jan 21, 2022 17:18:09 GMT
Have you ever thought about those candidates who got close to election at one point or another in their political careers but never quite made it into the House of Commons? I wonder how these people in particular would have fared as MPs: Stuart Mole (missed out on winning Chelmsford by 346 votes in 1983, having contested it three times before) Alan Watson (missed out on winning Richmond & Barnes by 71 votes in 1983; he is now Baron Watson) Monroe Palmer (what if he had won Hastings & Rye instead of Michael Jabez Foster? He could have benefitted from tactical votes) Timothy Keigwin (the Conservative who almost unseated then Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe in North Devon in 1970) Andrew Date (the Labour candidate who came within 132 and 776 votes of winning the rock solidly Conservative seat of SW Bedfordshire in 1997 and 2001) Peter Gold (the Liberal Democrat who would have won Wells in 1997 had Michael Eavis been more sensible and chosen not to stand in a seat Labour could not possibly win) Roger Pincham (came within 579 votes of winning Leominster for the Liberals in October 1974) Claire Brooks (came within 590 votes of winning Skipton for the Liberals in October 1974) Sharon Atkin (who would have won Nottingham East for Labour in 1987 had she not been suspended as a candidate) Brian Keefe (who stood unsuccessfully as a Conservative seven times but came pretty close to winning Ormskirk in 1979) Lucy Burke, missed out on winning Bury South by 402 votes to the Conservative candidate, who later switched to Labour. |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 21, 2022 19:04:13 GMT
Have you ever thought about those candidates who got close to election at one point or another in their political careers but never quite made it into the House of Commons? I wonder how these people in particular would have fared as MPs: Stuart Mole (missed out on winning Chelmsford by 346 votes in 1983, having contested it three times before) Alan Watson (missed out on winning Richmond & Barnes by 71 votes in 1983; he is now Baron Watson) Monroe Palmer (what if he had won Hastings & Rye instead of Michael Jabez Foster? He could have benefitted from tactical votes) Timothy Keigwin (the Conservative who almost unseated then Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe in North Devon in 1970) Andrew Date (the Labour candidate who came within 132 and 776 votes of winning the rock solidly Conservative seat of SW Bedfordshire in 1997 and 2001) Peter Gold (the Liberal Democrat who would have won Wells in 1997 had Michael Eavis been more sensible and chosen not to stand in a seat Labour could not possibly win) Roger Pincham (came within 579 votes of winning Leominster for the Liberals in October 1974) Claire Brooks (came within 590 votes of winning Skipton for the Liberals in October 1974) Sharon Atkin (who would have won Nottingham East for Labour in 1987 had she not been suspended as a candidate) Brian Keefe (who stood unsuccessfully as a Conservative seven times but came pretty close to winning Ormskirk in 1979) Lucy Burke, missed out on winning Bury South by 402 votes to the Conservative candidate, who later switched to Labour. Lucy Burke might end up standing again. My list was primarily historical. |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 12, 2023 15:25:40 GMT
To revive this thread:
Jay Risbridger, who was the Green Party candidate in Yeovil against Paddy Ashdown in 1992. He was initially selected as the Liberal Democrat candidate for Bath for the 2017 election but withdrew only 3 weeks before the nomination deadline; nevertheless as we know Wera Hobhouse won it convincingly.
Paul Sample: had he stood in Salisbury in 1997 he would likely have won; the Liberal Democrats lost a lot of tactical votes that year by fielding a Surrey-based councillor with no connection to the city.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 12, 2023 16:01:16 GMT
To revive this thread: Jay Risbridger, who was the Green Party candidate in Yeovil against Paddy Ashdown in 1992. He was initially selected as the Liberal Democrat candidate for Bath for the 2017 election but withdrew only 3 weeks before the nomination deadline; nevertheless as we know Wera Hobhouse won it convincingly. Their name escapes me but the original LD candidate in Bath in 1992 resigned shortly before the election and Don Foster was hurriedly selected in their place. |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 12, 2023 16:11:44 GMT
To revive this thread: Jay Risbridger, who was the Green Party candidate in Yeovil against Paddy Ashdown in 1992. He was initially selected as the Liberal Democrat candidate for Bath for the 2017 election but withdrew only 3 weeks before the nomination deadline; nevertheless as we know Wera Hobhouse won it convincingly. Their name escapes me but the original LD candidate in Bath in 1992 resigned shortly before the election and Don Foster was hurriedly selected in their place. Was it Malcolm Dean, who had contested the seat for the SDP in 1983 and 1987? Interestingly, there is no mention of this last-minute-replacement candidacy in the British General Election study of 1992. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 12, 2023 16:37:50 GMT
If just looked up the Bath 2017 thread, this is what David B wrote:
“ It was going to be Nick Westbrook (previously stood in Aldershot in 1983 and Mid Sussex in 1987, and later candidate for Poole in 2001).”
(On my phone so can’t quote/tag properly)
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Post by Clark on Sept 12, 2023 19:10:24 GMT
Donnie Munro, the former singer of Scottish band Runrig was the Labour candidate in Ross, Skye and Inverness West in the 1999 Scottish Parliament Election and was only narrowly beaten. I believe he was offered a safer seat in the central belt but wanted to contest this seat to represent his home area.
Of course another Runrig member, Pete Wishart was more successful in his political career
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Post by stb12 on Sept 12, 2023 19:26:13 GMT
Donnie Munro, the former singer of Scottish band Runrig was the Labour candidate in Ross, Skye and Inverness West in the 1999 Scottish Parliament Election and was only narrowly beaten. I believe he was offered a safer seat in the central belt but wanted to contest this seat to represent his home area. Of course another Runrig member, Pete Wishart was more successful in his political career He also contested the Westminster seat in 1997 against Charles Kennedy |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 12, 2023 21:09:34 GMT
Donnie Munro, the former singer of Scottish band Runrig was the Labour candidate in Ross, Skye and Inverness West in the 1999 Scottish Parliament Election and was only narrowly beaten. I believe he was offered a safer seat in the central belt but wanted to contest this seat to represent his home area. Of course another Runrig member, Pete Wishart was more successful in his political career He also contested the Westminster seat in 1997 against Charles Kennedy I seem to remember the story (told by Kennedy) that he asked Munro if he was interested in a parliamentary seat and Munro said "Yours, I think". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 5:44:33 GMT
Poppy Corbett was 266 votes off winning Lanark & Hamilton East for the Tories in 2017.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 13, 2023 8:53:44 GMT
Well if we are talking 2017 near misses, Simon Letts in Southampton Itchen "beats" that. At one point he was told (incorrectly) that he had won.
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Post by borisminor on Sept 13, 2023 9:01:32 GMT
Well if we are talking 2017 near misses, Simon Letts in Southampton Itchen "beats" that. At one point he was told (incorrectly) that he had won. Told by Labour staff/tellers or Southampton Council counting staff? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 9:27:38 GMT
Well if we are talking 2017 near misses, Simon Letts in Southampton Itchen "beats" that. At one point he was told (incorrectly) that he had won. If we're talking 2017 near misses (<500 votes): Elizabeth Riches in North East Fife Owen Meredith in Newcastle-under-Lyme Simon Letts in Southampton Itchen Ian Duncan in Perth & North Perthshire Les Jones in Dudley North Ian McCargo in Pudsey John Kent in Thurrock Peter Chowney in Hastings & Rye Emma Whysall in Chipping Barnet Tony Harper in Ashfield I'm sure there were others. These are just the MPs who haven't been (yet) |
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