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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 1, 2020 8:22:02 GMT
New Welsh Assembly/Parliament poll Voting attitudes and Senedd powers quizzed in poll for BBC Wales www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51662415Constituency vote Lab - 31% Con - 31% PC - 26% LD - 6% Regional vote Lab - 31% Con - 29% PC - 25% LD - 5% Projected seats Lab - 21 Con - 20 PC - 18 LD - 1
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Post by cibwr on Mar 1, 2020 8:54:49 GMT
New Welsh Assembly/Parliament poll Voting attitudes and Senedd powers quizzed in poll for BBC Wales www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51662415Constituency vote Lab - 31% Con - 31% PC - 26% LD - 6% Regional vote Lab - 31% Con - 29% PC - 25% LD - 5% Projected seats Lab - 21 Con - 20 PC - 18 LD - 1 Nothing for UKIP/Brexit/Abolish the Assembly....
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Post by kefin on Mar 1, 2020 11:39:12 GMT
New Welsh Assembly/Parliament poll Voting attitudes and Senedd powers quizzed in poll for BBC Wales www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51662415Constituency vote Lab - 31% Con - 31% PC - 26% LD - 6% Regional vote Lab - 31% Con - 29% PC - 25% LD - 5% Projected seats Lab - 21 Con - 20 PC - 18 LD - 1 Nothing for UKIP/Brexit/Abolish the Assembly.... Which very much sums up another Awan Scully poll doesn't it? Just a week or two after the poll reporting 27%+ supported scrapping the Assembly not even 1% show up on an Awan Scully Welsh Assembly poll for an Abolish the Assembly party Do you have details of the questions asked and parties presented on the poll? Nats and the laughably self titled Indy curious talking to themselves again convincing themselves in their own little Echo chamber that they're onto a winner.
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Post by clyde1998 on Mar 1, 2020 14:43:04 GMT
Nothing for UKIP/Brexit/Abolish the Assembly.... Which very much sums up another Awan Scully poll doesn't it? Just a week or two after the poll reporting 27%+ supported scrapping the Assembly not even 1% show up on an Awan Scully Welsh Assembly poll for an Abolish the Assembly party Do you have details of the questions asked and parties presented on the poll? Nats and the laughably self titled Indy curious talking to themselves again convincing themselves in their own little Echo chamber that they're onto a winner. I don't think this is a Scully poll, he only shows up in the article to show what the polling results would (could) mean in terms of seats. A lack of a Brexit/UKIP/AWA figure is concerning for the accuracy of the VI figures. Although the figures for 'others' appear to be 7% on the constituency and 10% on the list, which is 2%/1% lower than figures in the YouGov poll from the end of January (when Brexit/AWA are considered as 'others'). Worth also pointing out that ICM have shown a higher Plaid figure and a lower Conservative figure than YouGov in their previous polls.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Mar 1, 2020 22:23:34 GMT
On the contrary, the Conservative right has always despised the mediocre post-1997 life peers and wished to restore something of the dignity of the House of Lords before New Labour wrecked it with hordes of mediocre Labour, Lib Dem, and Crossbench peers. Call-me-Dave Cameron's heir-to-Blair contributions have not improved matters either. You seem to be claiming that the hereditary peers were not mediocre... Different sort of mediocrity. A mediocre hereditary would tend toward apathy, and the overall effect would be that there was no harm nor good done by their presence, as they would in fact by-and-large be absent. The post-1997 mediocres are both much more numerous and much more likely to be self-important windbags who actually show up and blather on and vote like it's 1999.
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Post by tonygreaves on Mar 1, 2020 22:42:59 GMT
Do you have any evidence for your somewhat tendentious assertions?
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Post by london(ex)tory on Mar 2, 2020 7:48:02 GMT
Do you have any evidence for your somewhat tendentious assertions? Many of the post-1997 mediocrities also have a staggering lack of self-awareness.
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Mar 3, 2020 12:15:16 GMT
Some more detail on the poll blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/electionsinwales/wp-content/uploads/sites/100/2020/03/BBC-Wales-ICM-Poll.pdfConstituency Labour 31% Conservatives 31% Plaid Cymru 26% Liberal Democrats 6% Greens 2% Brexit Party 2% UKIP 2% Others 1% List Labour 31% Conservatives 29% Plaid Cymru 25% Liberal Democrats 5% Greens 3% Brexit Party 3% UKIP 2% Others 2% Looks essentially like a collapse in the Brexit Party/Ukip vote with the Tories being the beneficiaries. No word on the Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party with both Gareth Bennett and Neil Hamilton making overtures to them (and Mark Reckless making increasing abolition noises we may see him change party also before the election!
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 3, 2020 12:17:32 GMT
Those figures were posted just above
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Post by cibwr on Mar 3, 2020 12:30:16 GMT
sorry with some more detail, as in the break down further of non 4 main party figures
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Post by greenchristian on Mar 3, 2020 13:54:03 GMT
Those figures were posted just above The post must have been deleted then, because I can only see partial figures posted above.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 3, 2020 14:48:24 GMT
cibwr originally just posted those same partial figures, they then updated them with more detail. Which is nice
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Post by cibwr on Mar 3, 2020 16:10:29 GMT
Correct fat fingered posting without editing.... an incomplete post originally. What are people's views on Reckless' likely affiliations next year...
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Post by kefin on Mar 3, 2020 16:23:51 GMT
Correct fat fingered posting without editing.... an incomplete post originally. What are people's views on Reckless' likely affiliations next year... He and the others will jump ship yet again to the abolish the assembly party in order to try and protect family incomes I'd imagine, they'll certainly be weighing the pros and cons up up as we speak. The idiot Bennett has already been limbering up and at least some of the others will follow as they see their income and positions slipping away in their present setup. They'll have been eyeing up the abolish indications in the recent Independence / abolish polls closely.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 3, 2020 17:54:48 GMT
Retiring AMs no longer get a severance package (bar those elected before 2011 who step down next year who qualify next year for 50% of what they would have got under the old system).
Bennett and Hamilton will stand, put no effort into Campaigning and pocket £33k (£30 of which of course is to free). I must confess if I were them I’d be bloody tempted to do the same.
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Post by cibwr on Mar 8, 2020 10:33:46 GMT
Interesting that the Tories are sounding bullish on their prospects, when at best it will be a three way tie.... while at the same time trumpeting populist policies like freezing the commission budget and halving the number of ministers (cutting the gravy train) while still employing their family.....
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 8, 2020 10:37:26 GMT
Let's not forget this one isn't happening until next year, things could look rather different by then.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 8, 2020 19:43:03 GMT
“Turbo charged” rather than “groundbreaking”
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 19:53:21 GMT
“Turbo charged” rather than “groundbreaking” Has he ever said "Meh: it's a bit dull this time"?
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Apr 8, 2020 19:53:45 GMT
Oh bollocks. He can shove his overly ramped polls up his fundament.
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