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Post by David on Nov 10, 2020 3:17:00 GMT
As I've said upthread, if he, or his children, stand in '24, they'll be the candidate. As long as the Trump family are involved in Republican politics, they'll have massive influence.
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Post by Toylyyev on Nov 10, 2020 3:56:48 GMT
Hadn't a scooby on that chap, but when i did reach page six hundred sixty six of the US election thread on the Atlas forum, (talkelections link) a held prejudice on the current Sawsnek and US doldrums morphed into a new shape genius.com/Sabaton-swedish-pagans-lyricsIf i had to pick one word to describe the UK ride of the last four years, it would be Holmgang. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 10, 2020 19:49:09 GMT
This is where the 'fight election fraud' donations are being rerouted to. The thread goes on to say he'll be serious about 2024 if the election is certified for Biden.
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Post by neilm on Nov 11, 2020 10:37:07 GMT
In terms of redistricting it will be confirmed next month who gains and loses, but estimates are: TX +3, FL +2. Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon all +1. That gives Rep +7, Dem +3. Losing one: Alabama, California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia. (The last 2 to be lost are tight between NY losing a second and California and Minnesota losing a seat but as they're all Dem held it makes no difference.) That gives Dem -7, Rep -3. Assuming this year ends 306-232 in Biden's favor, the new map will be 302-236. It would be the first time ever that California's representation has decreased, the first time since 1790 that Rhode Island has a single member, the first time that Florida has more representation than NY and the first time since 1990 that Montana has two members. Whilst it won't happen, it would be interesting if Congress raised their self imposed cap on representatives to, say, 440. |
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Post by Izzyeviel on Nov 11, 2020 15:23:18 GMT
They probably need another 50-100 reps. I would love to see them add more, just to annoy the 538 peeps.
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Post by mondialito on Nov 11, 2020 17:00:11 GMT
In terms of redistricting it will be confirmed next month who gains and loses, but estimates are: TX +3, FL +2. Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon all +1. That gives Rep +7, Dem +3. Losing one: Alabama, California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia. (The last 2 to be lost are tight between NY losing a second and California and Minnesota losing a seat but as they're all Dem held it makes no difference.) That gives Dem -7, Rep -3. Assuming this year ends 306-232 in Biden's favor, the new map will be 302-236. It would be the first time ever that California's representation has decreased, the first time since 1790 that Rhode Island has a single member, the first time that Florida has more representation than NY and the first time since 1990 that Montana has two members. Whilst it won't happen, it would be interesting if Congress raised their self imposed cap on representatives to, say, 440. At the very least it would make more sense to add five more seats if Puerto Rico and District of Columbia ever acheive statehood rather than taking seats from other states. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 11, 2020 19:17:13 GMT
Whilst it won't happen, it would be interesting if Congress raised their self imposed cap on representatives to, say, 440. At the very least it would make more sense to add five more seats if Puerto Rico and District of Columbia ever acheive statehood rather than taking seats from other states. When states acceed to the union, they do add extra seats, then they redistrict back to 440 at the next census. |
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Post by john07 on Nov 11, 2020 19:57:21 GMT
Whilst it won't happen, it would be interesting if Congress raised their self imposed cap on representatives to, say, 440. At the very least it would make more sense to add five more seats if Puerto Rico and District of Columbia ever acheive statehood rather than taking seats from other states. I don't see the Republicans allowing statehood to DC or Puerto Rico any time soon. |
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Post by neilm on Nov 11, 2020 23:07:51 GMT
At the very least it would make more sense to add five more seats if Puerto Rico and District of Columbia ever acheive statehood rather than taking seats from other states. When states acceed to the union, they do add extra seats, then they redistrict back to 440 at the next census. When Alaska and Hawaii joined it went up to 437 and then dropped at the next election. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 11, 2020 23:58:01 GMT
At the very least it would make more sense to add five more seats if Puerto Rico and District of Columbia ever acheive statehood rather than taking seats from other states. I don't see the Republicans allowing statehood to DC or Puerto Rico any time soon. On that note, Puerto Rico had another referendum on statehood on the same day as the presidential election. 52 per cent in favour. |
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Post by boogieeck on Nov 12, 2020 0:10:50 GMT
Whats the longest the USA has ever gone without adding a new state?
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Post by David Boothroyd on Nov 12, 2020 0:16:41 GMT
1959-present.
The record previously was just under 47 years, between Arizona in February 1912 and Alaska in January 1959.
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Post by boogieeck on Nov 12, 2020 0:38:49 GMT
about time they had another state then
I think Virginia is the only state to have ever been subdivided but I think Texas has that consititutional right.
IMO adding a state is less of a gerrymander than packing the SCOTUS. I cant think of a moral arguemtn against it if PR seeks to join.
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 12, 2020 0:55:53 GMT
about time they had another state then I think Virginia is the only state to have ever been subdivided but I think Texas has that consititutional right. IMO adding a state is less of a gerrymander than packing the SCOTUS. I cant think of a moral arguemtn against it if PR seeks to join. Maine was originally part of Massachusetts. |
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Post by David on Nov 12, 2020 4:17:37 GMT
about time they had another state then I think Virginia is the only state to have ever been subdivided but I think Texas has that consititutional right. IMO adding a state is less of a gerrymander than packing the SCOTUS. I cant think of a moral arguemtn against it if PR seeks to join. I doubt the GOP controlled Senate would allow an extra seven electoral votes, two senators and a House delegation for the Democrats. Unless they added somewhere conservative, like Western Canada, to offset it. That isn't going to happen in the near to medium term though. |
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Post by boogieeck on Nov 12, 2020 10:03:42 GMT
Morally, what is the grounds for refusing statehood to a territory of over 3 million Americans? Who request it?
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Post by David Boothroyd on Nov 12, 2020 10:23:20 GMT
While DC as a state would be a Democratic Party lock, it's not certain that Puerto Rico would be. Republicans, or their local affiliate the New Progressive Party, have done well there.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 12, 2020 10:34:16 GMT
When states acceed to the union, they do add extra seats, then they redistrict back to 440 at the next census. When Alaska and Hawaii joined it went up to 437 and then dropped at the next election. Yep, the cap is 435. Mismatch between brain and fingers. There was a little voice nagging away asking if that number was correct. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 12, 2020 10:46:51 GMT
Morally, what is the grounds for refusing statehood to a territory of over 3 million Americans? Who request it? That they will be a net deficit expensive nuisance. That they will vote the 'wrong' way and make gaining the house and senate more difficult. It has nothing at all to do with morality. There is no moral point here. |
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Post by boogieeck on Nov 12, 2020 12:32:37 GMT
You are one of those Tories who would surrender Scotland to secure another five years of a wet Tory government.
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