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Post by aargauer on Sept 14, 2024 14:21:54 GMT
sanders , did you really support Trump in 2016? If so, what are your fundamental values that make up you. What drives you. Don't get me wrong, unless you have a heart of stone, it was hilarious to see Hiliary go down, but that's different to actual support for someone as fundamentally fash as the Donald. 1) I bought into the economic populism; 2) I thought he'd give the UK a decent trade deal; 3) I didn't like the Clintons; 4) I was angry about what I perceived to be DNC interference in the primary debate between Clinton and Sanders, with Debbie Wasserman Schultz's connivance. He's got a lot worse, rhetorically and policy wise since 2016. I just thought it would be 'Brexit+++' and I had supported Brexit. TBH I would say the reverse. He was absolutely wild in the 2016 primaries, now he's just a boring spreader of memes that everyone other than him knows aren't really true.
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Post by sanders on Sept 14, 2024 14:30:56 GMT
Good takedown of fake populist Vance:
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 14, 2024 16:06:29 GMT
1) I bought into the economic populism; 2) I thought he'd give the UK a decent trade deal; 3) I didn't like the Clintons; 4) I was angry about what I perceived to be DNC interference in the primary debate between Clinton and Sanders, with Debbie Wasserman Schultz's connivance. He's got a lot worse, rhetorically and policy wise since 2016. I just thought it would be 'Brexit+++' and I had supported Brexit. TBH I would say the reverse. He was absolutely wild in the 2016 primaries, now he's just a boring spreader of memes that everyone other than him knows aren't really true. Watch the footage on that twitter thread posted above of the California presser. If you want a real case study of cognitive decline, that is it. The very last bit about water is completely constructed reality stuff. He now truly is a real life Grampa Simpson, grasping onto a few things that are real and constructing complete nonsense around it.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 14, 2024 16:42:39 GMT
He now truly is a real life Grampa Simpson, grasping onto a few things that are real and constructing complete nonsense around it. Well he does have an obsession with Springfield.
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Post by sanders on Sept 14, 2024 16:44:24 GMT
He was already pretty obviously unhinged. Pardon my French but it's true. Imagine what he's like at 82. "They're eating dogs" isn't the zinger "they're bringing drugs" was in 2016. He's just anti-immigrant this time. No serious nods to economic populism. It's not a winning strategy, really.
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Post by timmullen on Sept 14, 2024 18:01:43 GMT
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 14, 2024 18:44:31 GMT
I presume he was thinking of Nicky Minaj. Who is - at least - female, but latina?
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Post by Jack on Sept 14, 2024 18:54:36 GMT
I presume he was thinking of Nicky Minaj. Who is - at least - female, but latina? Minaj is originally from Trinidad.
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Post by greatkingrat on Sept 14, 2024 18:58:20 GMT
There is a (male) Latin singer called Nicky Jam. Presumably someone gave Trump the name, but forgot to clarify their gender.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Sept 14, 2024 19:04:01 GMT
He was already pretty obviously unhinged. Pardon my French but it's true. Imagine what he's like at 82. "They're eating dogs" isn't the zinger "they're bringing drugs" was in 2016. He's just anti-immigrant this time. No serious nods to economic populism. It's not a winning strategy, really. There is much truth in this. In 2016 I was an enthusiastic supporters of Trump. By 2020 I supported Trump because the alternative was the Biden. In early 2024 I still supported Trump because his opponent was Biden. Now I don't care all that much, Trump has turned cuck on almost every matter of significance and Harris is not as objectionable as Biden.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 14, 2024 19:17:41 GMT
There is a (male) Latin singer called Nicky Jam. Presumably someone gave Trump the name, but forgot to clarify their gender. The point is that Nicky Jam is endorsing Trump and was at the rally to do so.
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Post by timmullen on Sept 14, 2024 20:00:45 GMT
There is a (male) Latin singer called Nicky Jam. Presumably someone gave Trump the name, but forgot to clarify their gender. The point is that Nicky Jam is endorsing Trump and was at the rally to do so. Your comment is utterly irrelevant, if you bothered to watch the video he says “she’s hot”, so he clearly hadn’t got the faintest first idea of who Nicky Jam is, and, as gwynthegriff suggested, probably thought he was getting Nicky Minaj’s endorsement.
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 14, 2024 20:02:14 GMT
Do we know what Nicky Jam's pronouns are?
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Post by timmullen on Sept 14, 2024 20:12:22 GMT
Do we know what Nicky Jam's pronouns are? I haven’t even got as far as finding out who Nicky Jam is, and I’m sure that his first public foray into the political scene is completely unconnected to him releasing an album last week…
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Post by johnloony on Sept 14, 2024 20:16:36 GMT
The point is that Nicky Jam is endorsing Trump and was at the rally to do so. Your comment is utterly irrelevant, if you bothered to watch the video he says “she’s hot”, so he clearly hadn’t got the faintest first idea of who Nicky Jam is, and, as gwynthegriff suggested, probably thought he was getting Nicky Minaj’s endorsement. I don’t know why you feel the need to be so rude. Of course I watched the video; it was from doing so that I discovered that Nicky Jam was actually at the rally, and not merely being mentioned by Trump in the abstract. Of course it’s obvious that Trump didn’t know who Nicky Jam is, as is obvious from the fact that he referred to him as “she”. There is no evidence to suggest that Trump thought he was referring to Nicky Minaj. And equally obviously, my comment was not “irrelevant” (utterly or otherwise) because I was responding the greatkingrat’s comment (“There is a (male) Latin singer called Nicky Jam”) which greatkingrat would not have written if he had been aware of the fact that Nicky Jam was actually at the rally in person. Unlike you, I managed to post a copy of the relevant tweet (with the video showing Nicky Jam appearing), because I had the intelligence and the common sense which enabled me to change the “x” to “twitter”, thereby making the tweet visible and accessible.
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Post by timmullen on Sept 14, 2024 20:19:52 GMT
Your comment is utterly irrelevant, if you bothered to watch the video he says “she’s hot”, so he clearly hadn’t got the faintest first idea of who Nicky Jam is, and, as gwynthegriff suggested, probably thought he was getting Nicky Minaj’s endorsement. I don’t know why you feel the need to be so rude. Of course I watched the video; it was from doing so that I discovered that Nicky Jam was actually at the rally, and not merely being mentioned by Trump in the abstract. Of course it’s obvious that Trump didn’t know who Nicky Jam is, as is obvious from the fact that he referred to him as “she”. There is no evidence to suggest that Trump thought he was referring to Nicky Minaj. And equally obviously, my comment was not “irrelevant” (utterly or otherwise) because I was responding the greatkingrat’s comment (“There is a (male) Latin singer called Nicky Jam”) which greatkingrat would not have written if he had been aware of the fact that Nicky Jam was actually at the rally in person. Unlike you, I managed to post a copy of the relevant tweet (with the video showing Nicky Jam appearing), because I had the intelligence and the common sense which enabled me to change the “x” to “twitter”, thereby making the tweet visible and accessible. Don’t know what you’re looking at, or system you’re using, but using my very old iPhone on the website my post shows the video underneath the text without having to change anything.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 14, 2024 20:39:18 GMT
I don’t know why you feel the need to be so rude. Of course I watched the video; it was from doing so that I discovered that Nicky Jam was actually at the rally, and not merely being mentioned by Trump in the abstract. Of course it’s obvious that Trump didn’t know who Nicky Jam is, as is obvious from the fact that he referred to him as “she”. There is no evidence to suggest that Trump thought he was referring to Nicky Minaj. And equally obviously, my comment was not “irrelevant” (utterly or otherwise) because I was responding the greatkingrat’s comment (“There is a (male) Latin singer called Nicky Jam”) which greatkingrat would not have written if he had been aware of the fact that Nicky Jam was actually at the rally in person. Unlike you, I managed to post a copy of the relevant tweet (with the video showing Nicky Jam appearing), because I had the intelligence and the common sense which enabled me to change the “x” to “twitter”, thereby making the tweet visible and accessible. Don’t know what you’re looking at, or system you’re using, but using my very old iPhone on the website my post shows the video underneath the text without having to change anything. I am looking at the screen on my iPad which has your post which says “This is just funny” followed by a link which requires the reader to click on it, open it in a new tab, and play the video, with the danger that someone who isn’t on Twitter is being asked to “log in” to something. Luckily I am on Twitter, but some people aren’t. I made it easier by posting a copy of the tweet directly in the forum so that normal people can see it more easily.
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Post by timmullen on Sept 14, 2024 21:32:30 GMT
Don’t know what you’re looking at, or system you’re using, but using my very old iPhone on the website my post shows the video underneath the text without having to change anything. I am looking at the screen on my iPad which has your post which says “This is just funny” followed by a link which requires the reader to click on it, open it in a new tab, and play the video, with the danger that someone who isn’t on Twitter is being asked to “log in” to something. Luckily I am on Twitter, but some people aren’t. I made it easier by posting a copy of the tweet directly in the forum so that normal people can see it more easily. 🥱
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 14, 2024 21:40:44 GMT
I presume he was thinking of Nicky Minaj. Who is - at least - female, but latina? My presumption may have been unwarranted - Nicky Jam was present and invited up on stage, at which point Trump referred to him as "he". So he probably wasn't confusing Jam with Minaj, though you never know with him. In any event it's probably wise to check the details of the people endorsing you before making a big deal of it ... And - yes - I was aware that Minaj was Trinidadian so probably Afro-Caribbean rather than latino.
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Post by r34t on Sept 14, 2024 22:21:13 GMT
I presume he was thinking of Nicky Minaj. Who is - at least - female, but latina? My presumption may have been unwarranted - Nicky Jam was present and invited up on stage, at which point Trump referred to him as "he". So he probably wasn't confusing Jam with Minaj, though you never know with him. In any event it's probably wise to check the details of the people endorsing you before making a big deal of it ... And - yes - I was aware that Minaj was Trinidadian so probably Afro-Caribbean rather than latino. But as Trump doesn't know where Haiti is, but will be sending Haitians back home to Venezuala, this particular confusion is small beer for him.
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