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Post by right on Jul 21, 2024 20:15:59 GMT
Seemingly the GOP might try and create some mischief by filing legal challenges against Biden being replaced I don't see how they can. The convention hasn't happened yet, so technically he is not being replaced, he just won't be nominated in the first place. Some States have mandated delegates to vote for Haley in first round even though she's withdrawn to back Trump, so the same will be the case here. It's probably not the majority, but even if Biden were selected in first round they could choreograph a withdrawal. |
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Post by graham on Jul 21, 2024 20:16:56 GMT
I suspect that Biden's withdrawal will effectively reverse Trump's post - attempted assassination 'bounce' - and that the eventual nominee will also receive quite an initial polling boost.
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Post by stb12 on Jul 21, 2024 20:19:55 GMT
No, it needs Vice President and Cabinet. Johnson in 1968 withdrew after underperforming in the early Primaries, there was no suggestion he should not finish his term, and indeed the Republicans may feel it to their advantage not to give Harris the bully pulpit of the Oval Office. Indeed, practically it’s not much different to a term limited President seeing out their time and taking part in a transition |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 21, 2024 20:21:17 GMT
As someone who's said that Biden was stupid for ever trying to run for a second term (from the point he was elected), the cope is clearly your own. Nope. To ditch the doolally but inoffensive grandad for somebody as unlikeable as Harris is a massive coup. Coup for the heathen? Well at least you're consistently inconsistent. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 21, 2024 20:26:14 GMT
Seemingly the GOP might try and create some mischief by filing legal challenges against Biden being replaced At least someone in the GOP still has a sense of humour. |
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Post by manchesterman on Jul 21, 2024 20:28:36 GMT
At least Biden kept up the Catholic tradition of pulling out at the last minute  |
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Post by Sandy on Jul 21, 2024 20:31:16 GMT
Nope. To ditch the doolally but inoffensive grandad for somebody as unlikeable as Harris is a massive coup. Coup for the heathen? Well at least you're consistently inconsistent. Biden and Harris are heathens. |
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Post by norflondon on Jul 21, 2024 20:40:43 GMT
I suspect that Biden's withdrawal will effectively reverse Trump's post - attempted assassination 'bounce' - and that the eventual nominee will also receive quite an initial polling boost. Would also mess up all the Trump 47 merchandising! |
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Post by riccimarsh on Jul 21, 2024 20:45:07 GMT
I suspect that Biden's withdrawal will effectively reverse Trump's post - attempted assassination 'bounce' - and that the eventual nominee will also receive quite an initial polling boost. Would also mess up all the Trump 47 merchandising! I just posted (now deleted) the exact same thought. The Presidency is obviously far too important a position to mess around with like that, but it would be amusing for Biden to give Harris a couple of weeks in the White House after the election, solely for that purpose. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 21, 2024 20:47:52 GMT
But the Clintons do back Harris |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 21, 2024 20:48:37 GMT
Coup for the heathen? Well at least you're consistently inconsistent. Biden and Harris are heathens. Joe Biden is a Catholic. Kamala Harris is a Baptist. Kamala's husband is Jewish. |
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Post by right on Jul 21, 2024 20:55:17 GMT
I suspect that Biden's withdrawal will effectively reverse Trump's post - attempted assassination 'bounce' - and that the eventual nominee will also receive quite an initial polling boost. Why? Have they been assassinated? I accept not being senile will give a poll boost, because being openly senile is bad for poll numbers and would get worse over time. But smoke filled rooms and lack of a mandate from Primaries will be able to be exploited by the Trump campaign. And they will be. |
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Post by stb12 on Jul 21, 2024 20:55:58 GMT
I think Obama is just sticking by the neutral stance he’s taken in primaries since his own last election (not withstanding the unusual circumstances here), he didn’t even endorse Biden in 2020 until the contest was pretty much over despite their history
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Post by right on Jul 21, 2024 20:58:07 GMT
But the Clintons do back Harris Perhaps Obama will be steamrollered. But to make this move either shows some confidence that he can stop this or, if not, a fear that's she's a terrible candidate. He's not doing it for fun. |
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Post by right on Jul 21, 2024 20:58:33 GMT
More the question is did Biden know?
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Post by michaelarden on Jul 21, 2024 20:59:31 GMT
The cope from the Trumpian right here is quite something.
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Post by right on Jul 21, 2024 21:01:29 GMT
No, it needs Vice President and no Cabinet. Johnson in 1968 withdrew after underperforming in the early Primaries, there was no suggestion he should not finish his term, and indeed the Republicans may feel it to their advantage not to give Harris the bully pulpit of the Oval Office. LBJ went out because he couldn't hold his party together on Vietnam not because he had visibly mentally declined |
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Post by right on Jul 21, 2024 21:01:45 GMT
The cope from the Trumpian right here is quite something. ? |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 21, 2024 21:03:00 GMT
Kamala is definitely running, but we all knew that anyway.
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Post by norflondon on Jul 21, 2024 21:05:01 GMT
Obamas weren't expected to endorse anyone. They stayed out of 2019/20 Dem nominations iirc
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