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Post by stb12 on Jul 20, 2024 7:53:12 GMT
Senator Sherrod Brown has called for Biden to not run
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Post by tomc on Jul 20, 2024 9:45:56 GMT
Once upon a time, Russell Brand was feted as a sort of left-wing poet-cum-philosopher by the media. The Guardian ran all manner of fawning articles about him; the New Statesman made him a guest editor; politicians sought out his endorsement. Weirdly, it turns out that, actually, everyone knew he was a pseudo-intellectual poseur and a wrong 'un the whole time. And this is why I am prepared to risk some ridicule on his behalf. I shared that view before it became fashionable, and to some extent still do at least about the style and I'm sure there are some stances that are ill formed. But I wasn't expecting a well grounded discussion on the relationship of think tanks to incoming Presidential administrations. That's all. Years ago, before Brand was properly famous he did some short interviews with various people including Mark Collett one of the youth leaders of the BNP among others. You could tell Brand's own politics were very much left wing but he did seem to want to engage with Collett fairly and understand his world view, such as it was. That was a plus point. One of the other interview was with an elderly woman and the questions were all around how she'd feel about him attempting to seduce her, which was odd and you could see the arrested adolescence that led to the Andrew Sachs calls he made with Jonathan Ross. Basically Brand has an inquisitive, open but undiscriminating mind and this comes across on his Youtube channel which I have watched a couple of videos of.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 20, 2024 10:05:50 GMT
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Post by michaelarden on Jul 20, 2024 10:15:31 GMT
critical race theory is valid. Scots and Irish areas Utterly shocking to see motorways and railways largely serving Belfast and its extensive commuter belt rather than the sparsely populated west of the province. Dungannon and Omagh towns have a population of 40,000 between them.
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Post by right on Jul 20, 2024 11:03:23 GMT
So assuming that they want to avoid Candidate Kamala, how can the Democratic power brokers pull that off without Biden remaining in place?
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Post by norflondon on Jul 20, 2024 11:16:49 GMT
Harris as nominee would mean they keep campaign funds. Anyone else- they lose everything
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Post by timmullen on Jul 20, 2024 11:25:19 GMT
So assuming that they want to avoid Candidate Kamala, how can the Democratic power brokers pull that off without Biden remaining in place? There are two ways, according to the New York Times Pelosi wants an open convention when anybody’s name can be submitted into nomination. Second is to nominate Biden and then a week later he withdraws on health grounds and the Executive of the DNC can, in one interpretation of their rules, choose a candidate. Timing is awfully difficult though because most States have a mid-August candidate filing deadline. As I said earlier there’s also a simmering legal argument that convention delegates from most States are legally obliged to vote for the winner of that State’s primary and can’t switch without another primary (obviously impossible). I guess a court would rule that if Biden was unwilling to accept the nomination anyway then that legal obligation becomes moot, but it would only take a few mischievous Republicans in Wisconsin, Michigan and/or Pennsylvania to sue and drag the thing out beyond candidate filing deadline in those States.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 20, 2024 12:26:53 GMT
Zuckerberg says one minute that he won't endorse Trump and the next minute that his getting up off the floor was "one of the most badass moment of my life". Quite the juxtaposition Mark. There have been a string of tech bros coming out for Trump, or in Zuck's case not against him. Zuck is quite a strong Democrat normally and I believe had visited Iowa just to, you know, look around. The tech community is going to still be heavily Democrat, but whether it's because Trump is killing Biden's AI directive or just that they sense where power is going, many of the live players are treating Trump VERY differently from the last election. I had quite naturally thought that badass was a very pejorative term indeed. So what does it mean to the average American?
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Post by spqr on Jul 20, 2024 12:51:41 GMT
Zuckerberg says one minute that he won't endorse Trump and the next minute that his getting up off the floor was "one of the most badass moment of my life". Quite the juxtaposition Mark. There have been a string of tech bros coming out for Trump, or in Zuck's case not against him. Zuck is quite a strong Democrat normally and I believe had visited Iowa just to, you know, look around. The tech community is going to still be heavily Democrat, but whether it's because Trump is killing Biden's AI directive or just that they sense where power is going, many of the live players are treating Trump VERY differently from the last election. I had quite naturally thought that badass was a very pejorative term indeed. So what does it mean to the average American? It's a term of approval for someone believed to have shown guts, steel, gumption, etc.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 20, 2024 12:56:29 GMT
Once upon a time, Russell Brand was feted as a sort of left-wing poet-cum-philosopher by the media. The Guardian ran all manner of fawning articles about him; the New Statesman made him a guest editor; politicians sought out his endorsement. Weirdly, it turns out that, actually, everyone knew he was a pseudo-intellectual poseur and a wrong 'un the whole time. I have always regarded him as a completely deranged nobody with a sick mind and utterly shite views on everything who 'looks like' a central casting version of a typical serial killer and rapist. And treated him and the few effusions I have encountered accordingly. This has over the years led to some very heated argument with a number of friend and family; just as it did over Michael Jackson and others!
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 20, 2024 12:57:54 GMT
I had quite naturally thought that badass was a very pejorative term indeed. So what does it mean to the average American? It's a term of approval for someone believed to have shown guts, steel, gumption, etc. Thank you. How very quaint of the rude colonials.
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Post by tiberius on Jul 20, 2024 18:19:14 GMT
Did you see that Liz Truss appeared in a campaign stop in Pennsylvania? What a sad display.
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Post by swanarcadian on Jul 20, 2024 18:20:57 GMT
Did you see that Liz Truss appeared in a campaign stop in Pennsylvania? We’ve been talking about it on the South West Norfolk thread.
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Post by right on Jul 20, 2024 20:13:52 GMT
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Post by right on Jul 20, 2024 22:01:34 GMT
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Post by riccimarsh on Jul 20, 2024 22:05:11 GMT
”Let’s take the only candidate who could have lost to Trump first time around and nominate her again so she can lose to him a second time”. I especially like the comparison to Jo Swinson.
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Post by adlai52 on Jul 20, 2024 22:26:51 GMT
”Let’s take the only candidate who could have lost to Trump first time around and nominate her again so she can lose to him a second time”. I especially like the comparison to Jo Swinson. Is there much doubt that Biden would probably have won in 2016? Some reporting that he and his team still begrudge Obama from talking him out of it then and it’s one reason Obama and party elders are having trouble now in easing him out… essentially they already played that card eight years ago!
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jul 20, 2024 23:00:16 GMT
The Ministry of Justice turned weapons against me and the judges proved their failure
Trump
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Post by norflondon on Jul 21, 2024 0:24:28 GMT
Biden has no intention right now of stepping down. This was posted an hr ago!
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Post by right on Jul 21, 2024 6:30:46 GMT
Biden has no intention right now of stepping down. This was posted an hr ago! I suspect Biden himself doesn't know how to post on Twitter. If Biden drops out, Biden's team will be firing on all cylinders until the very moment he drops out when they will be saying of course they always thought someone else would stand a better chance.
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