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Post by stb12 on Jul 15, 2024 17:46:14 GMT
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse  Vance is not a serious person, and is in some ways worse than Trump. Given Trump's age there is a substantial chance the VP will become president. His Hillbilly Elegy memoir was interesting and pretty brave in many ways, even if you don’t agree with the conclusions drawn from it. However in order to get into elected politics he fully went on board the Trump train after initially being very critical of him |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 15, 2024 17:56:26 GMT
There may have been fraud. I don't know. He thinks there was. He believes he has evidence. He has every right to speak. If Trump thinks he has evidence of election fraud he should produce it. If he claims to have evidence but keeps it hidden, then he in fact does not have evidence. Vague assertions are not enough. He needs to have concrete evidence that can be independently adjudicated in court. I might think I have evidence that Labour stole the recent UK general election. But unless I put that evidence out there for other people to scrutinise, I just be some crazy guy shouting out into the void and would rightly laughed at, ridiculed and/or ignored. It's the Masons! They control everything! Them and the fecking Jesuits! |
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Post by noorderling on Jul 15, 2024 18:42:54 GMT
If Trump thinks he has evidence of election fraud he should produce it. If he claims to have evidence but keeps it hidden, then he in fact does not have evidence. Vague assertions are not enough. He needs to have concrete evidence that can be independently adjudicated in court. I might think I have evidence that Labour stole the recent UK general election. But unless I put that evidence out there for other people to scrutinise, I just be some crazy guy shouting out into the void and would rightly laughed at, ridiculed and/or ignored. It's the Masons! They control everything! Them and the fecking Jesuits! And the lizards, of course. |
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Post by johnloony on Jul 15, 2024 18:51:24 GMT
It's the Masons! They control everything! Them and the fecking Jesuits! And the lizards, of course. I blame the Labour government |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 15, 2024 18:53:17 GMT
Vance is a coward and a charlatan. If he's the pick, the GOP of old, which genuinely stood for freedom, may really be gone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 18:53:25 GMT
I've bet on Marco Rubio or Tim Scott being VP. I believe J.D. Vance is a rising star but is too junior in the Senate. Trump would only pick Vance IMO because he metaphorically sucked Trump's cock to get the nod in his Ohio primary in 2022.
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Post by noorderling on Jul 15, 2024 18:54:32 GMT
And the lizards, of course. I blame the Labour government You are a Tory, you are supposed to blame Labour. |
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Post by stb12 on Jul 15, 2024 18:55:38 GMT
I've bet on Marco Rubio or Tim Scott being VP. I believe J.D. Vance is a rising star but is too junior in the Senate. Trump would only pick Vance IMO because he metaphorically sucked Trump's cock to get the nod in his Ohio primary in 2022. Tim Scott was out of the running a few weeks ago which was a bit surprising |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 18:58:22 GMT
I've bet on Marco Rubio or Tim Scott being VP. I believe J.D. Vance is a rising star but is too junior in the Senate. Trump would only pick Vance IMO because he metaphorically sucked Trump's cock to get the nod in his Ohio primary in 2022. Tim Scott was out of the running a few weeks ago which was a bit surprising I don't see what Vance adds. Ohio is ruby red enough not to worry about, and Vance can't bring over significant demographics to the party, unlike Rubio. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 15, 2024 18:59:08 GMT
CNN is reporting that Rubio and Burgum have been told by the Trump campaign that it isn't them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 19:01:04 GMT
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Post by observer on Jul 15, 2024 19:04:29 GMT
Of course we should always be even handed and reflect on the reaction of leaders across the Western World and former US leaders to the shameful (failed) murderous attack on Trump (eg Biden, Obama, Clinton, Starmer, Macron etc) who all expressed their revulsion at the attack and condemned it emphatically and unreservedly We should also take the time to reflect on the reaction of Trump to a failed murderous attack on one of his biggest political foes... No equivalence at all. The Pelosi incident was a 'domestic invasion' by someone with a BLM flag at home |
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Post by manchesterman on Jul 15, 2024 19:05:36 GMT
Trump's VP pick is apparently being announced later today. All indications are that it will be Vance but this could be misdirection. Simon Marks (LBCs USA correspondent) has stated that all the indications he's getting is that it will be Vance. (An example he gave what that his Secret Service protections have just been significantly upgraded...why would that be unless his status/importance has changed) |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 15, 2024 19:07:46 GMT
CNN is reporting that Rubio and Burgum have been told by the Trump campaign that it isn't them. I heard that in the voices of Ant and Dec on IACGMOOH. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 19:07:54 GMT
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Post by manchesterman on Jul 15, 2024 19:11:14 GMT
Boebert?  |
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Post by timmullen on Jul 15, 2024 19:11:47 GMT
JD Vance of Ohio
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Post by manchesterman on Jul 15, 2024 19:11:56 GMT
Apparently Trump will be speaking at or after 10pm UK time
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 19:12:48 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 15, 2024 19:13:45 GMT
BBC and Sky both reporting it.
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