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Post by MacShimidh on Nov 24, 2020 21:11:30 GMT
I can't find a reference, but I recall from playing them at rugby at school (ie not recently) that they were a bizarre mix of an expensive fee-paying boarding school and one that gave anyone who actually lived in Dollar a free day school education, to the extent that where the 30mph signs were placed was a matter of absolutely critical importance. Of course, all that did was put the price of homes up massively and make every ex-council house much sought after Our firsts played their 2nds, so that is a measure of who they were because often, our seconds played other people's firsts. BTW, Clackmannanshire is truly odd, it is gorgeous rolling farmland that looks like a safe Tory seat and the villages of Clack, Kippen, Dollar do nothing to disabuse you. Then you drive around a corner and there is a big road junction splay, beyond which is a set of gates, beyond which surrounded by trees is the mineworks, which now explains the presence of lorries hauling coal over the Clack Bridge to Kincardine Power station, although I think the mine workings actually went under the Forth, so coal mined under Clack was hauled up in West Lothian It voted Labour because the neighbours were polite to each other. It would have been rude to vote Tory I remember during the 2014 referendum a lot of attention was focused on Clackmannanshire for it supposedly being "Scotland in microcosm." That's overstating it a bit imo, but it does have a wee bit of everything. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 24, 2020 21:18:20 GMT
I can't find a reference, but I recall from playing them at rugby at school (ie not recently) that they were a bizarre mix of an expensive fee-paying boarding school and one that gave anyone who actually lived in Dollar a free day school education, to the extent that where the 30mph signs were placed was a matter of absolutely critical importance. Of course, all that did was put the price of homes up massively and make every ex-council house much sought after Our firsts played their 2nds, so that is a measure of who they were because often, our seconds played other people's firsts. BTW, Clackmannanshire is truly odd, it is gorgeous rolling farmland that looks like a safe Tory seat and the villages of Clack, Kippen, Dollar do nothing to disabuse you. Then you drive around a corner and there is a big road junction splay, beyond which is a set of gates, beyond which surrounded by trees is the mineworks, which now explains the presence of lorries hauling coal over the Clack Bridge to Kincardine Power station, although I think the mine workings actually went under the Forth, so coal mined under Clack was hauled up in West Lothian It voted Labour because the neighbours were polite to each other. It would have been rude to vote Tory I remember during the 2014 referendum a lot of attention was focused on Clackmannanshire for it supposedly being "Scotland in microcosm." That's overstating it a bit imo, but it does have a wee bit of everything. IIRC a lot of attention was also paid to it because it was expected to be one of the first if not the first council to declare and was actually the first, so there was a lot of reading into what it might tell us... |
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Post by timrollpickering on Nov 24, 2020 21:33:06 GMT
I seem to recall the first council to declare was Orkney.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 24, 2020 22:33:08 GMT
I seem to recall the first council to declare was Orkney. i thought Clackmannanshire declaring was the point when "No" had won. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 24, 2020 22:43:36 GMT
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Post by Sandy on Nov 24, 2020 22:46:18 GMT
I seem to recall the first council to declare was Orkney. i thought Clackmannanshire declaring was the point when "No" had won. That was Fife IIRC. |
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Post by Eastwood on Nov 25, 2020 0:06:11 GMT
I can't find a reference, but I recall from playing them at rugby at school (ie not recently) that they were a bizarre mix of an expensive fee-paying boarding school and one that gave anyone who actually lived in Dollar a free day school education, to the extent that where the 30mph signs were placed was a matter of absolutely critical importance. Of course, all that did was put the price of homes up massively and make every ex-council house much sought after Our firsts played their 2nds, so that is a measure of who they were because often, our seconds played other people's firsts. BTW, Clackmannanshire is truly odd, it is gorgeous rolling farmland that looks like a safe Tory seat and the villages of Clack, Kippen, Dollar do nothing to disabuse you. Then you drive around a corner and there is a big road junction splay, beyond which is a set of gates, beyond which surrounded by trees is the mineworks, which now explains the presence of lorries hauling coal over the Clack Bridge to Kincardine Power station, although I think the mine workings actually went under the Forth, so coal mined under Clack was hauled up in West Lothian It voted Labour because the neighbours were polite to each other. It would have been rude to vote Tory I’m not an expert on Dollar’s exact arrangements but they’d have received direct grant money from government until 1976-7 for some local pupils. Some independent schools topped that up with specific endowment based bursaries for pupils meeting certain criteria so Dollar may have been doing that as well for pupils from the village. I believe Dollar was local authority run for a period in the 1920s as well before returning to the independent sector. |
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Post by DrW on Nov 25, 2020 17:33:19 GMT
I can't find a reference, but I recall from playing them at rugby at school (ie not recently) that they were a bizarre mix of an expensive fee-paying boarding school and one that gave anyone who actually lived in Dollar a free day school education, to the extent that where the 30mph signs were placed was a matter of absolutely critical importance. Of course, all that did was put the price of homes up massively and make every ex-council house much sought after Our firsts played their 2nds, so that is a measure of who they were because often, our seconds played other people's firsts. BTW, Clackmannanshire is truly odd, it is gorgeous rolling farmland that looks like a safe Tory seat and the villages of Clack, Kippen, Dollar do nothing to disabuse you. Then you drive around a corner and there is a big road junction splay, beyond which is a set of gates, beyond which surrounded by trees is the mineworks, which now explains the presence of lorries hauling coal over the Clack Bridge to Kincardine Power station, although I think the mine workings actually went under the Forth, so coal mined under Clack was hauled up in West Lothian It voted Labour because the neighbours were polite to each other. It would have been rude to vote Tory I remember during the 2014 referendum a lot of attention was focused on Clackmannanshire for it supposedly being "Scotland in microcosm." That's overstating it a bit imo, but it does have a wee bit of everything. I think there was also an expectation, because it was an area of historic SNP strength and because the pro-devolution side had done very well there in the 1997 referendum, that it would return a strong Yes vote. When it declared a clear No victory relatively early in the night, that pointed to a national victory for No. |
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