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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 19:22:48 GMT
Polls have now closed after four days of voting. After a referendum on electoral reform in 2018 the voting is now by plurality at large system. The island is a single 38 seat constituency and each voter has up to 38 votes.
Counting starts tomorrow. With that system I'd imagine the count taking a while
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 19:25:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 9:38:33 GMT
Breakdown of the candidates by Party
119 candidates altogether for the 38 seats
29 sitting deputies running for re-election 9 past deputies running for election 81 new candidiates
11 sitting deputies running as The Guernsey Partnership of Independents, including the current Chief Minister Gavin St Pier 4 past Deputies running on The Guernsey Partnership of Independents ticket 6 new candidiates for The Guernsey Partnership of Independents
11 candidates running for the Alliance Party Guernsey, all new candidates
9 candidates (all new) for the Guernsey Party
78 candidiates with no affiliation, including 18 current Deputies, 5 past Deputies and 55 new candidiates
The Guernsey Partnership of Independents includes all five members of the Policy and Resources Committee (i.e. the lead committee of the States) so its the ticket for the existing adminstration
The Guernsey Party running on a center right platform
Alliance Party Guernsey running on a center left platform
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Post by johnloony on Oct 8, 2020 10:01:12 GMT
It was interesting browsing through the candidates for a few minutes. 1 BAME candidate, 1 blind, 25 women, 94 men. Lots of Channel Islandy names. Lots of discontent about the last 4-year term: drift, complacency, economic mismanagement. Most of the candidates have a 3-minute video, so - even without knowing anything about the local issues or history - it is easy to get a good quick first impression of how competent or articulate they are, how well they can analyse the situation and explain what's wrong. Some of them are up themselves, going on about their career and CV, and hardly mentioning political issues; others talk only about the politics. In considering my hypothetical vote, I started with the stereotypical prejudice that younger candidates would be more LGBT-equality and more environmentally aware. Then I listened to some of the older ones and realised they had great wisdom too - although one or two were past it and over the hill. It'll be interesting to see the results in terms of incumbency/newcomers as well as by party.
I was surprised to discover that the candidates are not all independents; they have 3 political parties.
Alliance Party Guernsey (11 candidates)
Guernsey Partnership of Independents (21)
Guernsey Party (9)
no description (78)
total (119)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 10:21:28 GMT
It was interesting browsing through the candidates for a few minutes. 1 BAME candidate, 1 blind, 25 women, 94 men. Lots of Channel Islandy names. Lots of discontent about the last 4-year term: drift, complacency, economic mismanagement. Most of the candidates have a 3-minute video, so - even without knowing anything about the local issues or history - it is easy to get a good quick first impression of how competent or articulate they are, how well they can analyse the situation and explain what's wrong. Some of them are up themselves, going on about their career and CV, and hardly mentioning political issues; others talk only about the politics. In considering my hypothetical vote, I started with the stereotypical prejudice that younger candidates would be more LGBT-equality and more environmentally aware. Then I listened to some of the older ones and realised they had great wisdom too - although one or two were past it and over the hill. It'll be interesting to see the results in terms of incumbency/newcomers as well as by party. I was surprised to discover that the candidates are not all independents; they have 3 political parties. Alliance Party Guernsey (11 candidates) Guernsey Partnership of Independents (21) Guernsey Party (9) no description (78) total (119) The States work on a Committee system. The chief committee in the states, the Policy and Resource Committee, is in effect the equivilent of a Cabinet for Guernsey. The five members of the Committee, Gavin St Pier, Lyndon Trott, Al Brouard, Jonathan Le Tocq and Jane Stephens are all running as Guernsey Partnership of Independents
Guernsey Party describes itself as center right and has a center right manifesto and comes across as Toryish
Alliance Party Guernsey has a broadly center left manifesto and comes across as rather Lib Demy
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 8, 2020 11:04:57 GMT
It was interesting browsing through the candidates for a few minutes. 1 BAME candidate, 1 blind, 25 women, 94 men. Lots of Channel Islandy names. Lots of discontent about the last 4-year term: drift, complacency, economic mismanagement. Most of the candidates have a 3-minute video, so - even without knowing anything about the local issues or history - it is easy to get a good quick first impression of how competent or articulate they are, how well they can analyse the situation and explain what's wrong. Some of them are up themselves, going on about their career and CV, and hardly mentioning political issues; others talk only about the politics. In considering my hypothetical vote, I started with the stereotypical prejudice that younger candidates would be more LGBT-equality and more environmentally aware. Then I listened to some of the older ones and realised they had great wisdom too - although one or two were past it and over the hill. It'll be interesting to see the results in terms of incumbency/newcomers as well as by party. I was surprised to discover that the candidates are not all independents; they have 3 political parties. Alliance Party Guernsey (11 candidates) Guernsey Partnership of Independents (21) Guernsey Party (9) no description (78) total (119) The States work on a Committee system. The chief committee in the states, the Policy and Resource Committee, is in effect the equivilent of a Cabinet for Guernsey. The five members of the Committee, Gavin St Pier, Lyndon Trott, Al Brouard, Jonathan Le Tocq and Jane Stephens are all running as Guernsey Partnership of Independents
Guernsey Party describes itself as center right and has a center right manifesto and comes across as Toryish
Alliance Party Guernsey has a broadly center left manifesto and comes across as rather Lib Demy
If the Guernsey Party is "Toryish", and Alliance Party Guernsey is "rather LibDemy", where does that leave the ruling GPI? I can't believe they can be the equivalent of Labour?  |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Oct 8, 2020 11:31:45 GMT
The States work on a Committee system. The chief committee in the states, the Policy and Resource Committee, is in effect the equivilent of a Cabinet for Guernsey. The five members of the Committee, Gavin St Pier, Lyndon Trott, Al Brouard, Jonathan Le Tocq and Jane Stephens are all running as Guernsey Partnership of Independents
Guernsey Party describes itself as center right and has a center right manifesto and comes across as Toryish
Alliance Party Guernsey has a broadly center left manifesto and comes across as rather Lib Demy
If the Guernsey Party is "Toryish", and Alliance Party Guernsey is "rather LibDemy", where does that leave the ruling GPI? I can't believe they can be the equivalent of Labour? Technocratic? Or, more likely, to the right of the other two. I don't get the impression that socialism of any kind has a wide following on these rocks. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 8, 2020 12:39:03 GMT
If the Guernsey Party is "Toryish", and Alliance Party Guernsey is "rather LibDemy", where does that leave the ruling GPI? I can't believe they can be the equivalent of Labour? Technocratic? Or, more likely, to the right of the other two. I don't get the impression that socialism of any kind has a wide following on these rocks. Judging by the amount of moaning and complaining from the other candidates about inefficiency and bad management, I was guessing it's more like a Fianna Fail or a DUP or a Chinese Communist Party or a Self-Perpetuating Oligarchy Party or something. If I had time to watch all the candidates' videos, I would have voted for the ones I thought were intelligent and articulate, and the ones I instinctively "like" or think I can "trust", regardless of what "party" they are - and I assume that the parties are fairly flexible and transient anyway. |
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 8, 2020 12:46:58 GMT
If the Guernsey Party is "Toryish", and Alliance Party Guernsey is "rather LibDemy", where does that leave the ruling GPI? I can't believe they can be the equivalent of Labour? Technocratic? Or, more likely, to the right of the other two. I don't get the impression that socialism of any kind has a wide following on these rocks. Yes , my guess is that they would be what is often referred to on this forum as the councillor party. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 8, 2020 14:31:01 GMT
If the Guernsey Party is "Toryish", and Alliance Party Guernsey is "rather LibDemy", where does that leave the ruling GPI? I can't believe they can be the equivalent of Labour? Technocratic? Or, more likely, to the right of the other two. I don't get the impression that socialism of any kind has a wide following on these rocks. I get the feeling that the Guernsey Party is "Toryish" whereas the GPI is "Conservative-ish". |
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 8, 2020 14:59:12 GMT
Wonder if that couple was my brother-in-law's parents... 🤔 |
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Post by neilm on Oct 8, 2020 16:58:30 GMT
I wonder how they knew it took 47 seconds? Did the person say they were only going to vote for two people or whatever?
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 8, 2020 17:42:10 GMT
That's a Waitrose bottle. Does product placement know no boundaries these days? |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 8, 2020 18:08:35 GMT
That's a Waitrose bottle. Does product placement know no boundaries these days? No.  |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Oct 8, 2020 18:39:46 GMT
Hang on, if this is for the States of Guernsey, I think Alderney and Sark have a vote as well.
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Post by European Lefty on Oct 8, 2020 18:44:15 GMT
Hang on, if this is for the States of Guernsey, I think Alderney and Sark have a vote as well. The States of Alderney appoints two members, Sark gets no representation |
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Post by European Lefty on Oct 8, 2020 18:51:29 GMT
I've just remembered that my Guernsey friend threatened to spoil his ballot in protest at the new system by voting for 39 candidates. I'll have to ask if he went through with it next time I see him
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Post by European Lefty on Oct 8, 2020 23:12:12 GMT
I wonder if we'll get a bilingual declaration in English and Guernesiais?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 8:20:22 GMT
Full results now up. Guernsey Partnership of Independents did well, 10 out of 21 candidates elected including 4 of the 5 members of the Policy and Resource Committee. Chief Mininster Gavin St Pier topped the poll with 56.5% of ballots cast. Guernsey Party also did well, 6 out of 9 candidates elected. Its top candidate got 46.29%. Alliance Party Guernsey did badly, no candidates elected, top candidate got 13.77%
Which would indicate (as if there was any doubt) that if Guernsey elected an MP it would be a very safe Tory seat
election2020.gg/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Guernsey_general_election
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 10:03:29 GMT
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