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Post by andrew111 on Dec 9, 2021 14:20:09 GMT
I'M MORE INCLINED TO THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SURVATION POLL YESTERDAY AND THAT THAT MAY NOT BE A COINCIDENCE, WHILE STILL EXERCISING DUE CAUTION AT THIS POINT It would be surprising if that video had no effect on Tory voting intention, but it is interesting to see the votes going in various directions (but all within moe) This morning I was listening to Sajid Javid saying that he had been assured there was no party on the 18th. And I was thinking "why do you keep repeating things that hardly anyone believes"?? They really are in a hole and keep digging at the moment!
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Post by greenchristian on Dec 9, 2021 19:51:42 GMT
I'M MORE INCLINED TO THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SURVATION POLL YESTERDAY AND THAT THAT MAY NOT BE A COINCIDENCE, WHILE STILL EXERCISING DUE CAUTION AT THIS POINT It would be surprising if that video had no effect on Tory voting intention, but it is interesting to see the votes going in various directions (but all within moe) This morning I was listening to Sajid Javid saying that he had been assured there was no party on the 18th. And I was thinking "why do you keep repeating things that hardly anyone believes"?? They really are in a hole and keep digging at the moment! Most people will happily believe that somebody told Javid that there was no party on the 18th. It's just that they won't believe that either Javid or the person saying it actually believes this is the truth.
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 9, 2021 20:00:11 GMT
It would be surprising if that video had no effect on Tory voting intention, but it is interesting to see the votes going in various directions (but all within moe) This morning I was listening to Sajid Javid saying that he had been assured there was no party on the 18th. And I was thinking "why do you keep repeating things that hardly anyone believes"?? They really are in a hole and keep digging at the moment! Most people will happily believe that somebody told Javid that there was no party on the 18th. It's just that they won't believe that either Javid or the person saying it actually believes this is the truth. Yes, but all Javid has to say is "ex Prime Minister and Independent MP Johnson told me that, but he lied. I wanted to believe that a Prime Minister of this great country would tell the truth"
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Post by peterl on Dec 9, 2021 20:09:59 GMT
It would be surprising if that video had no effect on Tory voting intention, but it is interesting to see the votes going in various directions (but all within moe) This morning I was listening to Sajid Javid saying that he had been assured there was no party on the 18th. And I was thinking "why do you keep repeating things that hardly anyone believes"?? They really are in a hole and keep digging at the moment! Most people will happily believe that somebody told Javid that there was no party on the 18th. It's just that they won't believe that either Javid or the person saying it actually believes this is the truth. Javid was not a minister at the time, its very possible he did not know about the party and is merely regurgitating what he has been told. Culpable deniability.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 9, 2021 20:13:29 GMT
Most people will happily believe that somebody told Javid that there was no party on the 18th. It's just that they won't believe that either Javid or the person saying it actually believes this is the truth. Javid was not a minister at the time, its very possible he did not know about the party and is merely regurgitating what he has been told. Culpable deniability. A fact for which I suspect he is currently quite grateful.
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Post by mattbewilson on Dec 13, 2021 17:07:49 GMT
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Post by woollyliberal on Dec 13, 2021 17:13:14 GMT
10 polls in a row with the Tories behind. Average lead 6.2%. While Labour have taken much of the swing, It is notable that Reform are having a bit of a surge.
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 20, 2021 17:04:48 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 20, 2021 17:09:45 GMT
And best ever Lib Dem score from this pollster..
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Post by jollyroger93 on Dec 20, 2021 17:18:05 GMT
And best ever Lib Dem score from this pollster.. I think the Lib Dems are starting to get there protest voters back, plus North Shropshire bounce.
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Post by woollyliberal on Dec 20, 2021 17:20:23 GMT
I wonder if the drop in the Reform VI masks an otherwise bigger drop for the Tories.
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Post by andrewp on Jan 3, 2022 17:13:02 GMT
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Post by clyde1998 on Jan 3, 2022 18:58:52 GMT
I wonder if this is an outlier or whether the 'partygate' tide is starting to go back out.
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Post by woollyliberal on Jan 3, 2022 19:08:10 GMT
I wonder if this is an outlier or whether the 'partygate' tide is starting to go back out. It could be that a week off over Christmas has taken the sting out of partygate, or that a week off over Christmas has just made people forget.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 3, 2022 19:25:24 GMT
I wonder if this is an outlier or whether the 'partygate' tide is starting to go back out. It could be that a week off over Christmas has taken the sting out of partygate, or that a week off over Christmas has just made people forget. Possibly also some credit for not rushing headlong to follow Scotland and Wales into deeper unnecessary damaging restrictions which are now making both Sturgeon and Drakeford look ridiculous?
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Post by mattbewilson on Jan 3, 2022 20:01:56 GMT
There's a 5.5% swing in approval toward Boris
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 3, 2022 20:36:39 GMT
There's a 5.5% swing in approval toward Boris When did you last see the PM on the TV? The less coverage the less negativity.
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Post by batman on Jan 3, 2022 21:53:20 GMT
I'd say it's a very mild outlier - not a long way out of line with other polls but a bit on the low side from Labour's point of view. It does rather contrast with the last Deltapoll which was only yesterday and has their biggest Labour lead yet nationally (although still only 5%), but not that much. Labour won't be too concerned unless it's borne out in a number of other polls.
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Post by mattbewilson on Jan 3, 2022 22:58:50 GMT
I'd say it's a very mild outlier - not a long way out of line with other polls but a bit on the low side from Labour's point of view. It does rather contrast with the last Deltapoll which was only yesterday and has their biggest Labour lead yet nationally (although still only 5%), but not that much. Labour won't be too concerned unless it's borne out in a number of other polls. 38 is within margin of error
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 3, 2022 23:08:30 GMT
It could be that a week off over Christmas has taken the sting out of partygate, or that a week off over Christmas has just made people forget. Possibly also some credit for not rushing headlong to follow Scotland and Wales into deeper unnecessary damaging restrictions which are now making both Sturgeon and Drakeford look ridiculous? Interesting that The Sunday Telegraph and The Times tomorrow are both running articles suggesting the figures indicate “Johnson’s gamble may have backfired”.
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