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Post by archaeologist on Apr 10, 2020 17:52:25 GMT
It seems we have a new pollster on the block - Redfield and Wilton Strategies. On their website, they say "Redfield & Wilton Strategies are accredited members of the British Polling Council and abide by its rules."
They have poduced three polls since the election. They don't prompt for Brexit Party support. Polls are gathered online.
12 Feb 2020 Con 49.5, Lab 30.0, LDm 8.5, Grn 5.0, Oth 6.9 (1,216 sample)
23 Mar 2020 Con 47.4, Lab 28.5, LDm 8.3, Grn 4.9, Oth 10.9 (1,500 sample)
2 Apr 2020 Con 49.1, Lab 29.0, LDm 8.4, Grn 4.2, Oth 9.3 (2,000 sample)
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Post by AdminSTB on Apr 10, 2020 18:51:45 GMT
Sounds like a firm of solicitors.
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Post by bjornhattan on Apr 10, 2020 19:07:31 GMT
Sounds like a firm of solicitors. I thought it sounded like an obscure constituency deep in the South West. It didn't help that the "Recent Threads" list contained several such seats! |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Apr 10, 2020 19:14:36 GMT
I feel like there's a council ward somewhere called this.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 10, 2020 19:14:37 GMT
Sounds like a firm of solicitors. I thought it sounded like an obscure constituency deep in the South West. It didn't help that the "Recent Threads" list contained several such seats!  |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 10, 2020 19:14:48 GMT
Sounds like a firm of solicitors. I thought it sounded like an obscure constituency deep in the South West. It didn't help that the "Recent Threads" list contained several such seats! The younger cousin of Filton and Bradley Stoke. |
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Post by robert1 on Apr 10, 2020 19:28:32 GMT
Redfield was in my former Parliamentary constituency in Bristol. In the South West but not that 'deep'. Obscure to those not from the city.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 10, 2020 19:40:40 GMT
I thought it sounded like an obscure constituency deep in the South West. It didn't help that the "Recent Threads" list contained several such seats! The younger cousin of Filton and Bradley Stoke. Promising twin strikers for Bristol City |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 10, 2020 19:42:35 GMT
I thought it sounded like an obscure constituency deep in the South West. It didn't help that the "Recent Threads" list contained several such seats! I've an idea that Wilton is the original Wilt in Wiltshire. If so perhaps the most obscure place to have a county named after it. |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 10, 2020 19:43:35 GMT
The younger cousin of Filton and Bradley Stoke. Promising twin strikers for Bristol City "Filton! in the channel!".
"Chase it Bradley!"
In the 70s Bristol Rovers had strikers called Warboys and Bannister - nicknamed "Smash and Grab" iirc.
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Post by edgbaston on Apr 10, 2020 19:53:50 GMT
I've an idea that Wilton is the original Wilt in Wiltshire. If so perhaps the most obscure place to have a county named after it. Radnor? |
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Post by froome on Apr 10, 2020 19:54:35 GMT
I've an idea that Wilton is the original Wilt in Wiltshire. If so perhaps the most obscure place to have a county named after it. I think this discussion has already been had elsewhere. Wilton is probably the most obscure in England but try finding some Scottish ones like Roxburgh. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Apr 10, 2020 20:19:14 GMT
I've an idea that Wilton is the original Wilt in Wiltshire. If so perhaps the most obscure place to have a county named after it. The only place which might come close is Somerton - Wilton may be smaller but it does have a large park and ride for Salisbury, and is seeing a fair amount of new housing. The difference in population is about 1,000 at the moment. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 10, 2020 22:21:28 GMT
I've an idea that Wilton is the original Wilt in Wiltshire. If so perhaps the most obscure place to have a county named after it. The only place which might come close is Somerton - Wilton may be smaller but it does have a large park and ride for Salisbury, and is seeing a fair amount of new housing. The difference in population is about 1,000 at the moment. But is Somerset named after the town or vice versa? "Set" in place names is related to "settler" and essentially Anglo-Saxon for people. I've seen Somerset explained as being "the (land of) the summer people" because before drainage (when Athelney and Glastonbury were islands) the levels were underwater in winter but land in summer. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Apr 10, 2020 22:44:35 GMT
The only place which might come close is Somerton - Wilton may be smaller but it does have a large park and ride for Salisbury, and is seeing a fair amount of new housing. The difference in population is about 1,000 at the moment. But is Somerset named after the town or vice versa? "Set" in place names is related to "settler" and essentially Anglo-Saxon for people. I've seen Somerset explained as being "the (land of) the summer people" because before drainage (when Athelney and Glastonbury were islands) the levels were underwater in winter but land in summer. Either way, I've done further research which reveals a third contender. There isn't a great deal of evidence as to how Berkshire got its name, but it might come from Berroc or Bearroc - a medieval grove of box trees. If that is true, then it surely takes the prize - even the most obscure of Wessex towns is more prominent than a long forgotten copse. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 10, 2020 22:51:18 GMT
But is Somerset named after the town or vice versa? "Set" in place names is related to "settler" and essentially Anglo-Saxon for people. I've seen Somerset explained as being "the (land of) the summer people" because before drainage (when Athelney and Glastonbury were islands) the levels were underwater in winter but land in summer. Either way, I've done further research which reveals a third contender. There isn't a great deal of evidence as to how Berkshire got its name, but it might come from Berroc or Bearroc - a medieval grove of box trees. If that is true, then it surely takes the prize - even the most obscure of Wessex towns is more prominent than a long forgotten copse. Bishop Asser's Life of King Alfred (written c. 900 AD) specifically states that Berkshire (Alfred's birthplace) is named after the box tree, I don't recall if a specific grove is mentioned. Being Welsh, I imagine that Asser's interest in English place names would have been scholarly. The idea of box growing big enough to form groves is quite a thing but I know a garden in Stroud with several decent sized specimens and one at least 40 foot high. Given how hard the wood is it must be bloody ancient. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 11, 2020 0:36:29 GMT
These are obscure, but why is Shropshire named after a French tart?
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Post by archaeologist on Apr 11, 2020 7:05:58 GMT
So, Wessex shires -
Berkshire < Bearrucscir = as Asser say after a box wood, but modern scholars say from a Celtic word for hill tops
Dorset < Dorsæte = the area around Dorchester
Somerset < Sumorsæte = the area around Somerton
Wiltshire < Wiltunscir = the area around Wilton, an alternative early name was Wilsæte
The sæte suffix seems to be an Anglo-Saxon equivalent of a local word for an originally ancient British local government area.
My favourite is Devon, Dyfnaint in Welsh, both < ancient British Dumnonia the Ion Age tribe of that area.
Other shires
Shropshire < Scrobbesburgscir = the shire around Shrewsbury
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 11, 2020 8:17:07 GMT
So, Wessex shires - Berkshire < Bearrucscir = as Asser say after a box wood, but modern scholars say from a Celtic word for hill tops Dorset < Dorsæte = the area around Dorchester Somerset < Sumorsæte = the area around Somerton Wiltshire < Wiltunscir = the area around Wilton, an alternative early name was Wilsæte The sæte suffix seems to be an Anglo-Saxon equivalent of a local word for an originally ancient British local government area. My favourite is Devon, Dyfnaint in Welsh, both < ancient British Dumnonia the Ion Age tribe of that area. Other shires Shropshire < Scrobbesburgscir = the shire around Shrewsbury Ah , the ion age. That was a really charged time... |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 11, 2020 19:54:55 GMT
So, Wessex shires - Berkshire < Bearrucscir = as Asser say after a box wood, but modern scholars say from a Celtic word for hill tops Dorset < Dorsæte = the area around Dorchester Somerset < Sumorsæte = the area around Somerton Wiltshire < Wiltunscir = the area around Wilton, an alternative early name was Wilsæte The sæte suffix seems to be an Anglo-Saxon equivalent of a local word for an originally ancient British local government area. My favourite is Devon, Dyfnaint in Welsh, both < ancient British Dumnonia the Ion Age tribe of that area. Other shires Shropshire < Scrobbesburgscir = the shire around Shrewsbury The Tribal Hidage includes among the sub-kingdoms of Mercia the Pecsaete (area around The Peak), Wreocansaete (area around The Wrekin), both of which I can imagine turning into shires had things panned out differently with the Vikings. And there was the Magonsaete (supposed to equate to later diocese of Hereford) named after a Roman town of Magnae (on the site of Kenchester) I've often wondered (honestly!) what that would have become as a modern place name - maybe something along the lines of Mainsetshire? Gloucestershire was in the Kingdom of the Hwicce, which would have made us Wychshire by analogy with Wychwood, which is supposed to have the same root, but for the Burghal system putting us under Gloucester. |
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