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Post by greenhert on Apr 10, 2020 10:49:36 GMT
Camberwell & Peckham was created in 1997 from most of the old Peckham constituency and the northern half of the old Dulwich constituency.
Camberwell & Peckham covers the geographical middle of the London Borough of Southwark, and some of the most deprived inner-city parts of the UK. Peckham in particular has struggled with high crime rates and high unemployment; Camberwell does not fare much better except around Camberwell Green. This constituency has the highest black British population in the UK-37.4% on 2011 census figures, and a high mixed-race population (6.6%). It is also one of only two constituencies left in Britain were social tenants make up the majority of the electorate (50.6%).
As you might expect, Camberwell & Peckham is one of the safest Labour seats in the country, with 59.2% being the lowest Labour vote recorded so far in the constituency's existence, and that was in 2010. The current Labour MP is Harriet Harman, who is the longest-serving female MP yet; she served as acting leader of the Labour Party during the period in 2010 between Gordon Brown's resignation and Ed Miliband's election as Labour leader; she is unkindly referred to in some circles as "Harridan Harperson" for her middle-class progressive views. There is some Green potential in this seat, however, with Jenny Jones (now Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb) having been a councillor here from 2006 to 2010; during that period she was the only non-Labour councillor representing a ward within this constituency's boundaries. Another notable Green, Amelia Womack (deputy leader of the Green Party since 2014) contested this seat in 2015. Contests in this seat also feature higher numbers of candidates than average, with both the 2010 and 2015 elections featuring 11 candidates apiece. The Workers' Revolutionary Party perennially contests this seat but always gets a derisory vote each time. At a local level all the wards of Camberwell & Peckham are safely Labour, although the now-abolished ward of Livesey did elect a full slate of Liberal Democrat councillors in 2002.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 10, 2020 22:56:04 GMT
Quite a good profile, but it is rather ridiculous that you've mentioned Jenny Jones and even Amelia Womack; I'd have thought that Harriet Harman, the longest-serving ever female MP who has represented this seat and its linear predecessors since 1982 might have merited at least a passing mention....... There's a pattern going on with some of these. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 10, 2020 23:25:41 GMT
ridiculous that you've mentioned Jenny Jones and even Amelia Womack; I'd have thought that Harriet Harman, the longest-serving ever female MP who has represented this seat and its linear predecessors since 1982 might have merited at least a passing mention....... |
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 10, 2020 23:36:55 GMT
Nor have you mentioned the most famous residents of the seat who have put it on the map.
Do the large number of additional candidates get their campaigns from Hooky Street?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 11, 2020 0:03:08 GMT
Nor have you mentioned the most famous residents of the seat who have put it on the map. Do the large number of additional candidates get their campaigns from Hooky Street? Only at a push, push, push, push, push... |
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Post by Richard Allen on Apr 11, 2020 0:21:52 GMT
Quite a good profile, but it is rather ridiculous that you've mentioned Jenny Jones and even Amelia Womack; I'd have thought that Harriet Harman, the longest-serving ever female MP who has represented this seat and its linear predecessors since 1982 might have merited at least a passing mention....... There's a pattern going on with some of these. Some people certainly seem to have missed the point of the exercise. |
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 11, 2020 9:45:00 GMT
There's a pattern going on with some of these. Some people certainly seem to have missed the point of the exercise. There seems to be a bit of an attack going on here on GRH for writing profiles which overemphasise his green perspective. Up to a point I can see that that's right- most of us try to write these from a neutral psephological point of view and try to put aside our own bias, whether that's blue, red, yellow , green or whatever. I'm not sure any of us quite succeed, and I could probably guess the political persuasion of most authors of these profiles even if their names hadn't been coloured in. But the ones from GRH do seem a lot more blatant than most. However, that's the advantage of this being a collective effort rather than the work of one individual. It should all come out in the wash, so to speak. I hope everybody's contributions will be subject to rigorous scrutiny and any particular slant removed. In some ways though, the process by which this is arrived at, the vigorous debate, the bias exposed by counter-bias, the way in which some threads take on a life of their own and wander off the point (pubs and railways have taken over in one or two threads, what a surprise!), makes the whole thing richer, and probably a more interesting read than what may eventually emerge- the pure unbiassed psephological account. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 9:56:57 GMT
I had a dream Richard Allen proposed banning me for writing a bad review.
Let's all write good ones and not incur the wrath of other posters!
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Post by AdminSTB on Apr 11, 2020 11:01:11 GMT
I would simply reiterate again that there's nothing to stop different people submitting alternative profiles for the same constituency. Don't be afraid to do this; it shouldn't imply disrespect to the thread starter, but supplements their insights.
There are enough knowledgeable people here to scrutinise, offer constructive feedback and highlight any inaccuracies, take off partisan slants - whether made intentionally or not - which will eventually result in the publication of a brilliant book.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 11, 2020 12:16:35 GMT
On the other hand, Byron Criddle's MPs' profiles were mostly very good because he hates almost everybody. That turned out to be a problem in the end. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Apr 11, 2020 13:35:12 GMT
Byron Criddle's MPs' profiles were mostly very good because he hates almost everybody. Oh. I'd been wondering if he'd ever thought of joining this forum. |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Apr 11, 2020 17:18:15 GMT
He lives near me, and we have often chatted at length about politics in a tea & coffee shop which has sadly now closed. In these chats his hatred of just about everybody has been apparent. However while he knows just about everything there is to know about MPs, past and present, his psephological knowledge, while good, does have some gaps. One of the few MPs that he was very nice about was Martin Salter, Labour MP for Reading W 1997-2010, whose write-up was almost glowing in its positivity. Salter still has a big following in Reading-his massive personal vote is some of the reason Labour held on in 2005. I have been canvassing in RW only a few years ago when I met residents who still thought Martin was an MP. Martin is definitely very good at the "Mr Reading" personality he used to run his campaigns on. But enough about him. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 11, 2020 18:24:17 GMT
He lives near me, and we have often chatted at length about politics in a tea & coffee shop which has sadly now closed. In these chats his hatred of just about everybody has been apparent. However while he knows just about everything there is to know about MPs, past and present, his psephological knowledge, while good, does have some gaps. One of the few MPs that he was very nice about was Martin Salter, Labour MP for Reading W 1997-2010, whose write-up was almost glowing in its positivity. I think you might have just doxed " Richard Allen " |
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Post by heslingtonian on Apr 11, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
Nor have you mentioned the most famous residents of the seat who have put it on the map. Do the large number of additional candidates get their campaigns from Hooky Street? How would the Only Fools & Horses characters have voted? I’d say: Del - Conservative Rodney - Labour/Green Grandad - Labour Uncle Albert - Conservative Racquel - Labour Cassandra - Conservative Boycie & Marlene - Conservative Trigger - Labour Mike - Conservative Denzil - Labour Mickey Pearce - Labour Roy Slater - Conservative Cassandra’s parents - Conservative Driscoll Brothers - BNP Not many obvious Lib Dem characters. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 19:09:45 GMT
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the name of the Tory candidate in the 1982 Peckham by-election - Tobias Hammersley Eckersley.
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Post by londonseal80 on Apr 11, 2020 19:15:08 GMT
Nor have you mentioned the most famous residents of the seat who have put it on the map. Do the large number of additional candidates get their campaigns from Hooky Street? How would the Only Fools & Horses characters have voted? I’d say: Del - Conservative Rodney - Labour/Green Grandad - Labour Uncle Albert - Conservative Racquel - Labour Cassandra - Conservative Boycie & Marlene - Conservative Trigger - Labour Mike - Conservative Denzil - Labour Mickey Pearce - Labour Roy Slater - Conservative Cassandra’s parents - Conservative Driscoll Brothers - BNP Not many obvious Lib Dem characters. Trigger - whoever promises him a new broom! |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 11, 2020 19:35:26 GMT
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the name of the Tory candidate in the 1982 Peckham by-election - Tobias Hammersley Eckersley. , who was a longserving councillor in Dulwich. After retiring from the council, he died during the 2018 council elections, causing a delay to the London Bridge and West Bermondsey ward election where he was a paper candidate. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Apr 11, 2020 19:36:33 GMT
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the name of the Tory candidate in the 1982 Peckham by-election - Tobias Hammersley Eckersley. It was John Alan Redwood. Eckersley was the 1983 GE candidate. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 22:16:18 GMT
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the name of the Tory candidate in the 1982 Peckham by-election - Tobias Hammersley Eckersley. It was John Alan Redwood. Eckersley was the 1983 GE candidate. The pedantry of this forum will keep me sharp in old age. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 11, 2020 22:29:21 GMT
It was John Alan Redwood. Eckersley was the 1983 GE candidate. The pedantry of this forum will keep me sharp in old age. Pedantry is this forum's middle name and rightly so in my opinion.  |
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