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Post by yellowperil on Oct 17, 2019 22:43:14 GMT
Westcourt (Gravesham) result: CON: 50.1% (+21.0) LAB: 32.0% (-5.5) UKIP: 11.8% (-11.1) GRN: 6.1% (+6.1) No Independent (-10.5) as prev. In very crude terms we have picked all the Independent votes and half of UKIP to convincingly beat Labour. And that when the benefit (if any) of the Boris 'Great Deal' was quite unknown to all the postals and the further melt-down of UKIP still unknown. I think this was pretty predictable (and most of us in the prediction comp came close- though the final swing was a bit more than most of us expected- today's news maybe the final icing on the cake for the Tories). If the Tories weren't cashing in in more or less straight Lab/Con fight in an area like this then they really were in trouble. |
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Post by ElectionMapsUK on Oct 17, 2019 22:49:24 GMT
Think the percentages are incorrect on election maps for instance UKIP stood last time but according to that they gained 12% ! Yep, didn't have the UKIP figures from last time! Has been corrected now. |
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Post by andrewteale on Oct 17, 2019 22:49:59 GMT
That cannot be true? Can it? Having checked - yes, it is true. There have only been six other Conservative gains from Labour in this Parliament. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 17, 2019 22:51:48 GMT
In very crude terms we have picked all the Independent votes and half of UKIP to convincingly beat Labour. And that when the benefit (if any) of the Boris 'Great Deal' was quite unknown to all the postals and the further melt-down of UKIP still unknown. I think this was pretty predictable (and most of us in the prediction comp came close- though the final swing was a bit more than most of us expected- today's news maybe the final icing on the cake for the Tories). If the Tories weren't cashing in in more or less straight Lab/Con fight in an area like this then they really were in trouble. I understand that response, BUT... A seat with a record of Labour successes 9-Years into Government term A government in chaos much of the time and hamstrung by the HOC A marmite PM following a dismal failure PM Assailed by UKIP and the BP elements over Brexit Too early for much of the new WA to have made impact Surely YP, this is not so much '...then we would have been in trouble...' and far more a 'what the hell is wrong with the official opposition Labour'? Losing seats under these cnditions! Why? |
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 17, 2019 22:52:05 GMT
Lack of news from Liverpool: not a recount then?! |
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Post by Ben Walker on Oct 17, 2019 22:54:26 GMT
Lack of news from Liverpool: not a recount then?! Just the scales broke |
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Post by Robert Waller on Oct 17, 2019 22:57:56 GMT
Princes Park (Liverpool) result:
LAB: 73.1% (+5.5)
GRN: 13.8% (-5.6)
LDEM: 8.6% (+3.6)
CON: 4.6% (+1.2)
Labour HOLD.
No TUSC (-4.7) as prev.
Chgs. w/ 2016.
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 17, 2019 23:00:33 GMT
I think this was pretty predictable (and most of us in the prediction comp came close- though the final swing was a bit more than most of us expected- today's news maybe the final icing on the cake for the Tories). If the Tories weren't cashing in in more or less straight Lab/Con fight in an area like this then they really were in trouble. I understand that response, BUT... A seat with a record of Labour successes 9-Years into Government term A government in chaos much of the time and hamstrung by the HOC A marmite PM following a dismal failure PM Assailed by UKIP and the BP elements over Brexit Too early for much of the new WA to have made impact Surely YP, this is not so much '...then we would have been in trouble...' and far more a 'what the hell is wrong with the official opposition Labour'? Losing seats under these cnditions! Why? You may have overlooked my point about this being a more or less two party state(discounting UKIP which I feel we now safely can). I would not disagree with you about the dire message about Labour. It will be interesting when we have seats where there is real potential for LDs/Greens/ PC/Nats etc. Unfortunately none of today's elections will tell us much about that. |
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Post by ElectionMapsUK on Oct 17, 2019 23:00:48 GMT
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Post by phil156 on Oct 17, 2019 23:14:34 GMT
Expect Yorkshire wards will be a bit slow as they have to separate the papers as two by-elections in the same place.
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 17, 2019 23:16:54 GMT
Princes Park (Liverpool) result: LAB: 73.1% (+5.5) GRN: 13.8% (-5.6) LDEM: 8.6% (+3.6) CON: 4.6% (+1.2) Labour HOLD. No TUSC (-4.7) as prev. Chgs. w/ 2016. 2.15% swing Con to Lab |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 17, 2019 23:17:43 GMT
Expect Yorkshire wards will be a bit slow as they have to separate the papers as two by-elections in the same place. If they're attempting to count tonight, I will be amazed. The county division is the largest land area of any local government electoral area in England. |
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Post by andrewteale on Oct 17, 2019 23:28:18 GMT
Expect Yorkshire wards will be a bit slow as they have to separate the papers as two by-elections in the same place. If they're attempting to count tonight, I will be amazed. The county division is the largest land area of any local government electoral area in England. It's the largest county council division, but not the largest local government electoral area: that one is Bellingham in Northumberland. Upper Dales comes in second. |
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Post by andrewteale on Oct 17, 2019 23:30:10 GMT
Conservative by-election gains from Labour in this Parliament:
3.8.17 Kings Lynn/West Norfolk, St Margarets/St Nicholas
16.11.17 Waveney, St Margaret's
14.12.17 Newcastle (Lyme), Newchapel
18.1.18 Bolton, Hulton
12.7.18 Waveney, Pakefield
27.9.18 Nottingham, Clifton N
18.10.19 Gravesham, Westcourt
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Post by phil156 on Oct 17, 2019 23:34:12 GMT
Results from yorkshire. Hawes, High Abbotsford & Swaledale
IND 409, CON 231 & Green 57. Ind HOLD
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Post by phil156 on Oct 17, 2019 23:37:14 GMT
upper Dales result
CON GAIN FROM IND
Con 884, IND 741, LD 204 & Green 107
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Post by andrewteale on Oct 17, 2019 23:43:42 GMT
Kudos to the Richmondshire elections team for tonight's count. There were 26 ballot boxes to bring in.
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Post by ideal4radio on Oct 18, 2019 6:29:15 GMT
Results from yorkshire. Hawes, High Abbotsford & Swaledale IND 409, CON 231 & Green 57. Ind HOLD IND 58.7% ( - 26% ) CON 33.1% ( + 15.3% ) GRN 8.2% ( + 8.2% ) For what it's worth ..... |
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Post by ideal4radio on Oct 18, 2019 6:35:12 GMT
upper Dales result CON GAIN FROM IND Con 884, IND 741, LD 204 & Green 107 CON 45.7% ( + 16.2% ) IND 38.3% ( - 23.1% ) L/D 10.5% ( + 10.5 % ) GRN 5.2% ( - 0.3% ) nb: No LAB this time ... ( - 3.9% ) |
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Post by robert1 on Oct 18, 2019 7:48:49 GMT
Liverpool result gives Labour first increase in percentage share since August 8th.
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