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Post by YL on Feb 7, 2024 17:05:28 GMT
I've considered working on a local government version of the Boundary Assist tool before and went so far as to create a prototype. It's achievable, but the stumbling block is the lack of electorate data below ward level. Yes, it seems that in practice whoever was maintaining it might have to upload the polling district data from every LGBCE review page when the relevant file became available. (And that doesn't seem to be reliably the same date as when the consultation opens.) Perhaps an alternative would be to provide the user some way to do this themselves for the council they're interested in. Even then there are issues with data and mapping quality which might cause some problems. (E.g. for Darfield ward in Barnsley the polling districts in the mapping don't match those in the electorate data.) You still wouldn't have electorate data below polling district level, but the lack of a statutory limit on electoral equality for local government reviews makes me think that it doesn't matter that much if you make a guesstimate as to how the electorate breaks down when splitting an existing PD.
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Post by evergreenadam on Feb 7, 2024 21:40:00 GMT
I've considered working on a local government version of the Boundary Assist tool before and went so far as to create a prototype. It's achievable, but the stumbling block is the lack of electorate data below ward level. Yes, it seems that in practice whoever was maintaining it might have to upload the polling district data from every LGBCE review page when the relevant file became available. (And that doesn't seem to be reliably the same date as when the consultation opens.) Perhaps an alternative would be to provide the user some way to do this themselves for the council they're interested in. Even then there are issues with data and mapping quality which might cause some problems. (E.g. for Darfield ward in Barnsley the polling districts in the mapping don't match those in the electorate data.) You still wouldn't have electorate data below polling district level, but the lack of a statutory limit on electoral equality for local government reviews makes me think that it doesn't matter that much if you make a guesstimate as to how the electorate breaks down when splitting an existing PD. I read that the LGBCE were considering some kind of platform that would geographically locate electors and presumably future electors in the projection scenario as well, so that you could effectively draw your own ward boundaries. Otherwise as you say you are stuck with polling district data and can only use existing polling districts as the building blocks and more often than not you will need the freedom to add or remove electors from particular polling districts to make the numbers work or reflect community identity.
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Post by jm on Feb 20, 2024 11:32:12 GMT
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Post by listener on Feb 21, 2024 13:38:25 GMT
Change of ward name at Tunbridge Wells
Rural Tunbridge Wells is the new name for Goudhurst, Lamberhurst and Horsmonden
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://democracy.tunbridgewells.gov.uk/documents/s71222/Tunbridge%20Wells%20consent%20ward%20name%20change%208%20February%202024.pdf
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 21, 2024 13:46:50 GMT
Someone must have been disgusted.
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Post by greatkingrat on Feb 21, 2024 13:56:44 GMT
Change of ward name at Tunbridge Wells Rural Tunbridge Wells is the new name for Goudhurst, Lamberhurst and Horsmonden There are several wards in Tunbridge Wells that could be described as rural, so this doesn't seem like a particularly good name change.
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Post by hullenedge on Feb 28, 2024 8:45:06 GMT
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Post by Wisconsin on Feb 28, 2024 8:49:20 GMT
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YL
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Post by YL on Feb 28, 2024 9:42:51 GMT
Views on those Huddersfield <compass point> names?
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 28, 2024 10:03:31 GMT
My main observation is that those would be the sorts of names I'd pick if I was trying to distract people from arguing about whether the boundaries are actually any good.
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Post by hullenedge on Feb 28, 2024 10:04:47 GMT
Views on those Huddersfield <compass point> names? Bland although there's been 'upsets' in the past about ward names. North could be renamed as Fixby, East becomes Dalton and South Newsome. West could be difficult...Greenhead and Crosland Moor? Struggling with Central.
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Post by Crimson King on Feb 28, 2024 10:22:33 GMT
from tho pov of an outsider, if you were to show them a map with an X in the middle of Hudderfield and asked them to point where they think central, north, south etc might be……
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Feb 28, 2024 10:36:41 GMT
I'm going to suggest some other names for Huddersfield based on those maps.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 1, 2024 12:26:56 GMT
I'm going to suggest some other names for Huddersfield based on those maps. Presumably concentrating on renaming Lindley and Golcar wards?
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Mar 1, 2024 14:06:39 GMT
I'm going to suggest some other names for Huddersfield based on those maps. Presumably concentrating on renaming Lindley and Golcar wards? I think the Huddersfield wards could be renamed, certainly North. I'll have a proper look later, after typing that I've not had time to really check.
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Post by edgbaston on Mar 1, 2024 16:46:26 GMT
I at first misread your comment as ‘daft’ scheme. To which I heartily agreed
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Post by YL on Mar 1, 2024 19:03:17 GMT
I at first misread your comment as ‘daft’ scheme. To which I heartily agreed When I commented on the names yesterday I hadn't really absorbed the boundaries. They're not very good, are they? Are you going to make any suggestions for the next phase?
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Post by edgbaston on Mar 1, 2024 19:30:30 GMT
I at first misread your comment as ‘daft’ scheme. To which I heartily agreed When I commented on the names yesterday I hadn't really absorbed the boundaries. They're not very good, are they? Are you going to make any suggestions for the next phase? I am at such a busy time in life but oh go on then I’ll spend an evening, we can at least try!
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 1, 2024 19:46:53 GMT
When I commented on the names yesterday I hadn't really absorbed the boundaries. They're not very good, are they? Are you going to make any suggestions for the next phase? I am at such a busy time in life but oh go on then I’ll spend an evening, we can at least try! The Northern ward looks good especially given the housing developments. East and South look okay but Central and West could be better.
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Post by edgbaston on Mar 1, 2024 20:09:54 GMT
If Huddersfield North moved round to take off a portion of East, East took in half the town centre, south took in the other half of the town centre, west took in the portion of south above Meltham Road, and the portion of Golcar below Manchester Road, Golcar took in the portion of west above Manchester Road, Lindley took back the area in Golcar around the hospital, and the area of Huddersfield north west of Fixby park, and Huddersfield central gained in the ‘finger’ of Lindley that stretches towards the town centre. If you did all that you’d have some quite nice coherent wards based around the river valleys and main roads. I’d name my wards Bradley Birkby Dalton Almondbury & Kirkheaton (unchanged from draft) Newsome & Netherton Lockwood & Cowersley Golcar & Paddock Lindley
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