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Post by andrewteale on Sept 5, 2019 15:45:26 GMT
Bromley as a whole was marginally Remain in the referendum. We have some folk on here who could probably estimate how Orpington voted. Orpington is estimated to have voted Leave by a margin of 55% to 45%, with Leave voters being particularly concentrated in Cray Valley. Bromley published a ward breakdown iirc. |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 5, 2019 15:47:51 GMT
One of the all time classic ads. Especially as Stanley made it back into the league after decades away. Indeed. There are plenty of ad campaigns where an entire generation can quote a key line that's repeated across multiple adverts. But this is the only example I can think of where an entire generation can quote a single advert. |
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Post by mrhell on Sept 5, 2019 16:51:19 GMT
One of the all time classic ads. Especially as Stanley made it back into the league after decades away. Indeed. There are plenty of ad campaigns where an entire generation can quote a key line that's repeated across multiple adverts. But this is the only example I can think of where an entire generation can quote a single advert. Exactly! |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 5, 2019 16:58:15 GMT
Indeed. There are plenty of ad campaigns where an entire generation can quote a key line that's repeated across multiple adverts. But this is the only example I can think of where an entire generation can quote a single advert. Carcroft! Brigg!! Thorpe Arch!!! And Hull!!!! |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Sept 5, 2019 17:11:43 GMT
If a general election happens first (as happened with Manchester, Gorton last time) are spending limits reset or do they carry on?
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Post by neilm on Sept 5, 2019 17:46:28 GMT
Accrington resigned from the league before they were pushed out. The goalie ended up at Bolton, funnily enough. |
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Post by Smartie on Sept 5, 2019 18:47:39 GMT
The next election will be in October sop no by-election October 2020? Do you think it will be that far away? |
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Post by manchesterman on Sept 5, 2019 20:02:28 GMT
Chelsea were relegated from Division One - Liverpool were promoted along with Leyton Orient! (and the second place was almost taken by Scunthorpe Utd!!!!)
Accrington resigned from the league before they were pushed out.
and now another Lancashire team have been pushed out!
Also in that year Ipswich Town were champions (under a certain Alf Ramsey), Spurs greatest ever team won the FA cup and Norwich City beat Rochdale (!) over 2 legs in the League Cup final!
Times have certainly changed in football if not in politics!
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Post by lancastrian on Sept 5, 2019 21:15:55 GMT
Orpington is estimated to have voted Leave by a margin of 55% to 45%, with Leave voters being particularly concentrated in Cray Valley. Bromley published a ward breakdown iirc. They did, (percentages Remain-Leave) Biggin Hill 35-65 Chelsfield & Pratts Bottom 46-54 Cray Valley East 35-65 Darwin 35-65 Farnborough & Crofton 46-54 Orpington 42-58 Petts Wood & Knoll 51-49 |
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Post by john07 on Sept 5, 2019 23:41:26 GMT
Chelsea were relegated from Division One - Liverpool were promoted along with Leyton Orient! (and the second place was almost taken by Scunthorpe Utd!!!!) Orient, unsurprisingly, went straight back down. There was a titanic struggle between City and United for the dubious right to join them in relegation. It looked like going to the wire until United equalised very late on at Maine Road to (almost) secure safety with one match to go. United added insult to injury by winning the FA Cup at Wembley by beating Leicester. The final took place on 25 May instead of the usual first weekend in May. This was because of the big freeze which caused the League campaign to be extended by four weeks and the introduction of the pools panel. Everton won the First Division Championship. Stoke City, including the 48 year-old Stanley Matthews, won promotion to the First Division. Northampton Town won the Third Division, their second promotion in three years. Over a five-year period they went up from the Fourth Division to the First before going back down to the Fourth in four years. |
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Post by neilm on Sept 6, 2019 7:36:42 GMT
At one point, Gerald Nabarro (!) was on the pools panel. Tony Banks was until he died.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 6, 2019 8:26:53 GMT
Chelsea were relegated from Division One - Liverpool were promoted along with Leyton Orient! (and the second place was almost taken by Scunthorpe Utd!!!!) Orient, unsurprisingly, went straight back down. There was a titanic struggle between City and United for the dubious right to join them in relegation. It looked like going to the wire until United equalised very late on at Maine Road to (almost) secure safety with one match to go. United added insult to injury by winning the FA Cup at Wembley by beating Leicester. The final took place on 25 May instead of the usual first weekend in May. This was because of the big freeze which caused the League campaign to be extended by four weeks and the introduction of the pools panel. Everton won the First Division Championship. Stoke City, including the 48 year-old Stanley Matthews, won promotion to the First Division. Northampton Town won the Third Division, their second promotion in three years. Over a five-year period they went up from the Fourth Division to the First before going back down to the Fourth in four years. I don't think football has changed for the better.. Even though the skill level in the top teams has increased by hoovering up talent in the oligarch supermarket, the soul has gone out of it. As a true United fan (the original one, not those copy cats located these days in Trafford), Chris Wilder is perhaps a throwback to the spirit of those times even if the style of play is more advanced. Quite how this has come up on an Orpington thread I am not sure! |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 6, 2019 8:28:01 GMT
Bromley published a ward breakdown iirc. They did, (percentages Remain-Leave) Biggin Hill 35-65 Chelsfield & Pratts Bottom 46-54 Cray Valley East 35-65 Darwin 35-65 Farnborough & Crofton 46-54 Orpington 42-58 Petts Wood & Knoll 51-49 Why do we not get this sort of data everywhere? |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 6, 2019 8:52:42 GMT
They did, (percentages Remain-Leave) Biggin Hill 35-65 Chelsfield & Pratts Bottom 46-54 Cray Valley East 35-65 Darwin 35-65 Farnborough & Crofton 46-54 Orpington 42-58 Petts Wood & Knoll 51-49 Why do we not get this sort of data everywhere? Agreed. Sefton didn't even publish constituency breakdowns. This has led to a lot of analysis reporting that Bootle voted Leave and Southport Remain. Those at the count recognised that this was the other way round (no doubt assisted by Southport's age profile) but that has not meant any of the estimated outcomes have been amended |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 6, 2019 9:31:14 GMT
When Accrington Stanley resigned, they were replaced by Oxford United. When the new Accrington Stanley were promoted from the Conference, one of the teams they replaced was...Oxford United.
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Post by samdwebber on Sept 6, 2019 9:37:33 GMT
Regarding the 2016 Bromley ward breakdown, Tory cllrs constantly remind us these are only approximate, as postal votes were spread across all wards and counted on a borough wide (not ward specific) basis.
Ward counting desks with a lower turnout or smaller wards might have had more PVs to count but it is the only breakdown we have so I have continued to refer to it too.....but that is worth noting.
Bromley counted the recent European elections in the same way as we were told so by the Electoral services staff at the count.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 6, 2019 9:47:46 GMT
Orient, unsurprisingly, went straight back down. There was a titanic struggle between City and United for the dubious right to join them in relegation. It looked like going to the wire until United equalised very late on at Maine Road to (almost) secure safety with one match to go. United added insult to injury by winning the FA Cup at Wembley by beating Leicester. The final took place on 25 May instead of the usual first weekend in May. This was because of the big freeze which caused the League campaign to be extended by four weeks and the introduction of the pools panel. I don't think football has changed for the better.. Even though the skill level in the top teams has increased by hoovering up talent in the oligarch supermarket, the soul has gone out of it. The fun has been sucked out of the game. There is a grinding sense of professionalism in every aspect of it, an idea that it is utterly, all-consumingly important and that it is not to be treated as fun for either spectators or players. I've watched Manchester City now win several titles, and watched the likes of Aguero, Silva et al. But there's something in me that pines for the days of watching Andy Morrison, Kevin Horlock and Paul Dickov; playing teams like Tranmere and Port Vale rather than the same clubs every year; sitting in the rain in the Meccano Stand at Maine Road with my dad and my brother; watching the Swales Out sit-down protests in the car park; having to drink a miniature of Martell brandy because the club had forgotten to pay the brewery despite it being round the corner from the ground; drinking some of my first beers in the grim Moss Side boozers. Those days are long-gone, and I'm not sure that is entirely for the better. But such are laser-blue tinted glasses. Which reminds me. My first-ever City game was against your lot, February 1993. A thrilling...no, rather dull 0-0 draw. |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 6, 2019 10:21:11 GMT
Regarding the 2016 Bromley ward breakdown, Tory cllrs constantly remind us these are only approximate, as postal votes were spread across all wards and counted on a borough wide (not ward specific) basis. Ward counting desks with a lower turnout or smaller wards might have had more PVs to count but it is the only breakdown we have so I have continued to refer to it too.....but that is worth noting. Bromley counted the recent European elections in the same way as we were told so by the Electoral services staff at the count. Is the eu election data available? Postal votes will have been more Remain on average, probably, since where I am they are mainly ABC1 voters. Are you saying they were mixed in, unlike in London Assembly elections I believe? |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 6, 2019 10:39:49 GMT
I don't think football has changed for the better.. Even though the skill level in the top teams has increased by hoovering up talent in the oligarch supermarket, the soul has gone out of it. The fun has been sucked out of the game. There is a grinding sense of professionalism in every aspect of it, an idea that it is utterly, all-consumingly important and that it is not to be treated as fun for either spectators or players. I've watched Manchester City now win several titles, and watched the likes of Aguero, Silva et al. But there's something in me that pines for the days of watching Andy Morrison, Kevin Horlock and Paul Dickov; playing teams like Tranmere and Port Vale rather than the same clubs every year; sitting in the rain in the Meccano Stand at Maine Road with my dad and my brother; watching the Swales Out sit-down protests in the car park; having to drink a miniature of Martell brandy because the club had forgotten to pay the brewery despite it being round the corner from the ground; drinking some of my first beers in the grim Moss Side boozers. Those days are long-gone, and I'm not sure that is entirely for the better. But such are laser-blue tinted glasses. Which reminds me. My first-ever City game was against your lot, February 1993. A thrilling...no, rather dull 0-0 draw. Here is a more thrilling game for you that I was at... I still remember those days of Woodward and Curry (both scoring in this game) for the Blades, and Franny Lee for Man City. Standing on the Kop (jumpers for goalposts...)
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Post by samdwebber on Sept 6, 2019 14:35:28 GMT
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