Local By Elections - 25th of July

[Merseymike]

I find it difficult to have genuinely emotional feelings for things like disasters - I don't know whether its just because I see them as all one-step-removed, but their nationality doesn't come into it.

[andrew111]

Jul 21, 2019 19:46:20 GMT Merseymike said:

I find it difficult to have genuinely emotional feelings for things like disasters - I don't know whether its just because I see them as all one-step-removed, but their nationality doesn't come into it.

Yes, me too. I got quite cross about recent school shootings in America and other such events due to political failings (imo) but that is rather different.. People are dying in car crashes every day without anyone except family and friends noticing. How exactly is a plane crash any different?

I found it impossible to join in the mass hysteria over Lady Diana as well.

[Chris Cassidy]

Jul 8, 2019 20:31:49 GMT Tony Otim said:

HARTLEPOOL UA; Hart (Lab sitting as Ind resigned)
Candidates:
CRADDY, Graham Patrick (For Britain)
GRIFFITHS, Ian (Independent Union)
HARRISON, Graham Lloyd (UKIP)
JOHNSON, Ann (Labour)
RITCHIE, Michael James Brackstone (Green)

2019: Ind Union 1325; Lab 647
Oct 18 by: Ind 637; Lab 582; Con 200; Grn 27
2018: Ind 778; Lab 685; Con 304
2016: Lab 568; UKIP 529; Ind 394; Con 383; Grn 70
2015: Lab 1186; UKIP 981; Con 798; PHF 787; Ind 547
2014: PHF 534; UKIP 446; Ind 435; Lab 376; Con 234
2012: Lab 713, 571, 522; Ind 532, 368, 333, 257; Con 417; PHF 266; UKIP 262

Current Council: Lab 9; Independent Union 8; Socialist Labour 4; Con 3; Putting Seaton First 3; Ind 2; For Britain 1; Veterans & People’s 1; UKIP 1; 1 vacancy

This will be the first election IU have faced since recently taking control of the council so it will be an interesting test of public opinion.

[johnloony]

Jul 23, 2019 7:58:07 GMT andrew111 said:

I found it impossible to join in the mass hysteria over Lady Diana as well.

Do you mean Diana, Princess of Wales? She stopped being "Lady Diana" 16 years before her death.

[andrew111]

Jul 23, 2019 21:52:58 GMT johnloony said:

Jul 23, 2019 7:58:07 GMT andrew111 said:

I found it impossible to join in the mass hysteria over Lady Diana as well.

Do you mean Diana, Princess of Wales? She stopped being "Lady Diana" 16 years before her death.

Sorry John, i have never paid much attention to the titles of the hangers-on

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[Davıd Boothroyd]

Or in numbers (which makes it look more impressive):

John Ernest EDWARDS (Independent) 85
Virginia ROUNDING (Independent) 84
David James BARKER (Independent) 50
Paul Andrew O'BRIEN (Labour Party) 42
Ciara Marie MURPHY (Independent) 22
Emma PALMER (Indepedent) 3

[john07]

Jul 24, 2019 22:10:40 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Or in numbers (which makes it look more impressive):

John Ernest EDWARDS (Independent) 85
Virginia ROUNDING (Independent) 84
David James BARKER (Independent) 50
Paul Andrew O'BRIEN (Labour Party) 42
Ciara Marie MURPHY (Independent) 22
Emma PALMER (Indepedent) 3

Is that a big swing to or from the Independents?

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Jul 24, 2019 22:44:07 GMT john07 said:

Jul 24, 2019 22:10:40 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Or in numbers (which makes it look more impressive):

John Ernest EDWARDS (Independent) 85
Virginia ROUNDING (Independent) 84
David James BARKER (Independent) 50
Paul Andrew O'BRIEN (Labour Party) 42
Ciara Marie MURPHY (Independent) 22
Emma PALMER (Indepedent) 3

Is that a big swing to or from the Independents?

In the full council elections, Virginia Rounding was five votes ahead of John Edwards (148 to 143).

[Arthur Figgis]

7.3% Conservative to Labour swing.

[yellowperil]

Jul 24, 2019 22:44:07 GMT john07 said:

Jul 24, 2019 22:10:40 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Or in numbers (which makes it look more impressive):

John Ernest EDWARDS (Independent) 85
Virginia ROUNDING (Independent) 84
David James BARKER (Independent) 50
Paul Andrew O'BRIEN (Labour Party) 42
Ciara Marie MURPHY (Independent) 22
Emma PALMER (Indepedent) 3

Is that a big swing to or from the Independents?

For God's sake don't reopen the swing thing.  Poor Emma Palmer I feel sorry for - only 3 votes gained , and she's also lost an "n" in her description. Really humiliating.

[timmullen1]

Andrew’s Previews for today: britainelects.com/2019/07/25/previews-25-jul-2019/

And, for the record, yesterday’s City of London Corporation by-election: britainelects.com/2019/07/24/preview-24-jul-2019/

[The Bishop]

Was there a recount?

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Given it took two hours to get a result I guess there was.

[tonygreaves]

Was the Rounding up or down?

[Arthur Figgis]

Jul 25, 2019 10:56:17 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Given it took two hours to get a result I guess there was.

Unless they outsourced the count to the neighbouring local authority. Though 300-odd ballot papers in two hours might be a tad optimistic there.

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Turns out the Farringdon Within byelection was even more dramatic than previously indicated. The final result was actually a tie with both Edwards and Rounding on 84 votes.

Alderman Vincent Keaveny of Farringdon Within ward drew lots to determine the winner of his casting vote, which Edwards won giving him victory by one vote.

[yellowperil]

Jul 25, 2019 20:06:30 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Turns out the Farringdon Within byelection was even more dramatic than previously indicated. The final result was actually a tie with both Edwards and Rounding on 84 votes.

Alderman Vincent Keaveny of Farringdon Within ward drew lots to determine the winner of his casting vote, which Edwards won giving him victory by one vote.

So it really was a Rounding down

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Hart ward: Electorate 7,152. Votes verified 1,211. So turnout 16.9%.

[Davıd Boothroyd]

HARTLEPOOL Hart

Ann JOHNSON (Labour)- 366
Ian GRIFFITHS (Independent Union)- 358
Michael RITCHIE (Green Party)- 196
Graham CRADDY (For Britain Movement)- 166
Graham HARRISON (UKIP)- 114