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Post by robert1 on Mar 14, 2021 7:33:13 GMT
'More likely to be a reflection of the incumbency boost currently being enjoyed by most governments.' YouGov has been doing a Government tracker throughout the pandemic. Taking Germany, Italy, Spain and France, the UK is the only country where confidence in the Government is higher now than it was last Summer/Autumn.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Mar 14, 2021 8:12:45 GMT
'More likely to be a reflection of the incumbency boost currently being enjoyed by most governments.' YouGov has been doing a Government tracker throughout the pandemic. Taking Germany, Italy, Spain and France, the UK is the only country where confidence in the Government is higher now than it was last Summer/Autumn.
Seems as if our government has been successfully vaccinated against bad opinion poll ratings.
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Post by bigfatron on Mar 14, 2021 9:30:08 GMT
Don't underestimate the impact of the vaccine programme on these number - not only is it a self-evident success, but because of its nature it gets positive headline treatment almost every day, week after week, month after month (1m, 2m, 10m, 20m have been vaccinated, government has achieved its 100k, 250k, 500k per day target.
It's vanishingly rare for a 'good news story' to do that - the last I remember was the Falklands War, and even that had serious 'down' moments (HMS Sheffield, Atlantic Conveyor)
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Post by justin124 on Mar 14, 2021 9:41:27 GMT
'More likely to be a reflection of the incumbency boost currently being enjoyed by most governments.' YouGov has been doing a Government tracker throughout the pandemic. Taking Germany, Italy, Spain and France, the UK is the only country where confidence in the Government is higher now than it was last Summer/Autumn.
The Government's polling position remains well below the levels reached last April in the early days of the pandemic. Governments in the US , Australia and New Zealand are now polling well.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 14, 2021 9:46:10 GMT
'More likely to be a reflection of the incumbency boost currently being enjoyed by most governments.' YouGov has been doing a Government tracker throughout the pandemic. Taking Germany, Italy, Spain and France, the UK is the only country where confidence in the Government is higher now than it was last Summer/Autumn.
The Government's polling position remains well below the levels reached last April in the early days of the pandemic. Governments in the US , Australia and New Zealand are now polling well. Although in the case of the US it is a different government.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 14, 2021 9:56:57 GMT
The Government's polling position remains well below the levels reached last April in the early days of the pandemic. Governments in the US , Australia and New Zealand are now polling well. Although in the case of the US it is a different government. It doesn't matter who you vote for. The Government always gets in.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 14, 2021 10:00:31 GMT
Although in the case of the US it is a different government. It doesn't matter who you vote for. The Government always gets in.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 14, 2021 10:02:47 GMT
Don't underestimate the impact of the vaccine programme on these number - not only is it a self-evident success, but because of its nature it gets positive headline treatment almost every day, week after week, month after month (1m, 2m, 10m, 20m have been vaccinated, government has achieved its 100k, 250k, 500k per day target. It's vanishingly rare for a 'good news story' to do that - the last I remember was the Falklands War, and even that had serious 'down' moments (HMS Sheffield, Atlantic Conveyor) And of course we have a PM milking it for all it is worth (he currently appears to spend more time in vaccination centres than anywhere else)
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 14, 2021 10:04:37 GMT
'More likely to be a reflection of the incumbency boost currently being enjoyed by most governments.' YouGov has been doing a Government tracker throughout the pandemic. Taking Germany, Italy, Spain and France, the UK is the only country where confidence in the Government is higher now than it was last Summer/Autumn. I don't think everyone has fully appreciated just how abysmal the UK government's initial response to Coronavirus was. There's a good podcast from The Times recently about it.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 14, 2021 10:16:26 GMT
The Government's initial response was confused and responded to public perception and panic, which they then proceeded to create yet more of, for their own benefit.
I have no reason at all to think that anyone represented in Parliament would have done anything significantly different or better. Given there has, no matter what some try and make out, broad consensus on the issue, the differences were only on the margins.
If there are going to be significant shifts in opinion they are going to have to be about something else. The economic impact may be a possibility but Labour aren't really well equipped to provide any genuine opposition or I think, any significant difference of approach. They could try and pretend that furlough was not just delayed redundancy but given their support for that approach I think it's going to be difficult to take advantage of political fallout.
People don't like thinking they might have been wrong, and I find it rather hard to take seriously those who now complain about the inevitable outcome of what they supported
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Post by hengo on Mar 14, 2021 10:19:44 GMT
Unfortunately for Labour what people do remember is their tracking every move, urging more and faster investment in the things which didn’t work as well as those which did. So it’s hard for them to gain any political capital. I think myself that the difficulties facing any government at the time are widely understood. The bigger issue to be sure is how people react as economic consequences begin to be felt. That and the results of any inquiry , as immediate memories of the crisis begin to fade, may offer opportunities. Are they capable of taking them?
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 14, 2021 10:25:42 GMT
I expect that in due course the government may well have to accede to a full scale independent inquiry into how the pandemic was handled, and the findings of that could very conceivably provide some openings to the opposition. But even on the most optimistic timetable, that is still some way down the tracks.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 14, 2021 14:22:16 GMT
I expect that in due course the government may well have to accede to a full scale independent inquiry into how the pandemic was handled, and the findings of that could very conceivably provide some openings to the opposition. But even on the most optimistic timetable, that is still some way down the tracks. There seems to have been a rather childish delusion in the press that the failures of a government (and in particular this government) should be subject to heavy criticism, but that any successes should be written off as chance.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Mar 14, 2021 15:13:47 GMT
I expect that in due course the government may well have to accede to a full scale independent inquiry into how the pandemic was handled, and the findings of that could very conceivably provide some openings to the opposition. But even on the most optimistic timetable, that is still some way down the tracks. That would be an awful lot more likely if at any point the Opposition had proposed anything meaningfully different and they can then have a big "I told you so" factor. But they didn't, so they probably won't.
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Post by Andrew_S on Mar 14, 2021 19:31:30 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 15, 2021 11:22:37 GMT
I expect that in due course the government may well have to accede to a full scale independent inquiry into how the pandemic was handled, and the findings of that could very conceivably provide some openings to the opposition. But even on the most optimistic timetable, that is still some way down the tracks. There seems to have been a rather childish delusion in the press that the failures of a government (and in particular this government) should be subject to heavy criticism, but that any successes should be written off as chance. But equally, the success over vaccines (even a very big one) shouldn't be allowed to airbrush all the previous maladroit episodes out of history. Providing the right perspective on what has happened is one major reason why a proper inquiry would be desirable.
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Post by greenchristian on Mar 15, 2021 11:25:28 GMT
There seems to have been a rather childish delusion in the press that the failures of a government (and in particular this government) should be subject to heavy criticism, but that any successes should be written off as chance. But equally, the success over vaccines (even a very big one) shouldn't be allowed to airbrush all the previous maladroit episodes out of history. Providing the right perspective on what has happened is one major reason why a proper inquiry would be desirable. And, of course, ensuring that we learn the lessons from this pandemic in preparation for the next one.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 15, 2021 11:33:57 GMT
There seems to have been a rather childish delusion in the press that the failures of a government (and in particular this government) should be subject to heavy criticism, but that any successes should be written off as chance. But equally, the success over vaccines (even a very big one) shouldn't be allowed to airbrush all the previous maladroit episodes out of history. Providing the right perspective on what has happened is one major reason why a proper inquiry would be desirable. No disagreement there from me.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Mar 15, 2021 13:04:42 GMT
But equally, the success over vaccines (even a very big one) shouldn't be allowed to airbrush all the previous maladroit episodes out of history. Providing the right perspective on what has happened is one major reason why a proper inquiry would be desirable. And, of course, ensuring that we learn the lessons from this pandemic in preparation for the next one. The very first lesson should be don't compound a health crisis with a self-inflicted social and economic catastrophe by shutting the country down and making people live in fear for 12 months.
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 16, 2021 17:46:18 GMT
There seems to have been a rather childish delusion in the press that the failures of a government (and in particular this government) should be subject to heavy criticism, but that any successes should be written off as chance. But equally, the success over vaccines (even a very big one) shouldn't be allowed to airbrush all the previous maladroit episodes out of history. Providing the right perspective on what has happened is one major reason why a proper inquiry would be desirable. They don't deserve it but politically speaking they have got away with it.
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