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Post by tonyhill on Jun 1, 2019 14:28:31 GMT
Much depends on what happens next Thursday - and then in the leadership election.
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Post by Antiochian on Jun 1, 2019 14:41:21 GMT
Philip Hollobone and Kate Hoey are obvious suspects. Anyone else likely? Kate would then need to do a chicken run.... somewhere in the Midlands or Essex... Clacton, anyone? |
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Post by curiousliberal on Jun 1, 2019 14:51:12 GMT
Philip Hollobone and Kate Hoey are obvious suspects. Anyone else likely? Steve Baker has threatened resigning the whip before. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Jun 1, 2019 16:17:13 GMT
Kate would then need to do a chicken run.... somewhere in the Midlands or Essex... Clacton, anyone? Since Farage has total control of TBP including candidate selection he can offer her her pick. He's keen to push the message that "TBP isn't just disaffected Tories, we've got Labour people as well" and since Hoey is literally the only non Tory MP even remotely likely to join him she could demand her pick. Galloway is ex-Labour if Farage doesn't mind toxic sludge. Might Kelvin Hopkins, Ian Austin or Chris Williamson be angry enough to join if they are not reselected? I can't imagine so, but Williamson has proven able to have Damascene conversions when the leadership has changed in the past. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Jun 1, 2019 17:02:40 GMT
I would have thought Hooey must be a candidate to stand down at the next election anyway.
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Post by raedwald on Jun 1, 2019 17:44:37 GMT
Andrea Jenkyns seems possible, as do the MPs who were touted as possible UKIP defectors between 2010-15 (John Baron comes to mind).
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 1, 2019 18:12:35 GMT
I would have thought Hooey must be a candidate to stand down at the next election anyway. Hooey standing down?
I think that's just a load of old Hoey!
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Post by middyman on Jun 1, 2019 18:13:15 GMT
Since Farage has total control of TBP including candidate selection he can offer her her pick. He's keen to push the message that "TBP isn't just disaffected Tories, we've got Labour people as well" and since Hoey is literally the only non Tory MP even remotely likely to join him she could demand her pick. Galloway is ex-Labour if Farage doesn't mind toxic sludge. Might Kelvin Hopkins, Ian Austin or Chris Williamson be angry enough to join if they are not reselected? I can't imagine so, but Williamson has proven able to have Damascene conversions when the leadership has changed in the past. Not sure TBP would accept all those on that list. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 1, 2019 18:49:44 GMT
I hope they wouldn't touch Williamson with a barge pole. Hopkins is sound enough on Brexit but is a Corbynite and Austin is just a bit of a twat but that's just my personal opinion. Hoey, Field and Mann are the only MPs elected as Labour i'd want to come across I think
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Post by jamie on Jun 1, 2019 19:22:51 GMT
I hope they wouldn't touch Williamson with a barge pole. Hopkins is sound enough on Brexit but is a Corbynite and Austin is just a bit of a twat but that's just my personal opinion. Hoey, Field and Mann are the only MPs elected as Labour i'd want to come across I think I thought Hoey would be way to economically Corbynista for your liking? |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 1, 2019 19:26:54 GMT
Andrew Bridgen and Mark Francois from the Tories, John Mann and Kate Hoey from Labour
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 1, 2019 20:00:46 GMT
I hope they wouldn't touch Williamson with a barge pole. Hopkins is sound enough on Brexit but is a Corbynite and Austin is just a bit of a twat but that's just my personal opinion. Hoey, Field and Mann are the only MPs elected as Labour i'd want to come across I think I thought Hoey would be way to economically Corbynista for your liking? Sure but we're a broad church (until Brexit is achieved). She is an old Trot and a bit of a nutter frankly but my main objection to Corbyn is his support for the IRA and there's no worries about that with her at least |
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Post by jamie on Jun 1, 2019 20:57:31 GMT
John Mann won't defect to the Brexit Party. The others might. Yeah, he voted for the deal for starters. |
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Post by hedgehog on Jun 1, 2019 21:28:01 GMT
With his sister already an MEP for the Brexit party, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Jacob Rees-Mogg, especially if the Tory leadership doesn't go the way he wants.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jun 1, 2019 21:31:16 GMT
With his sister already an MEP for the Brexit party, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Jacob Rees-Mogg, especially if the Tory leadership doesn't go the way he wants. It's a good point, but I see him as too tribally loyal. In any case, I find it hard to see the leadership going to anyone he couldn't support. I think he'd be OK with e.g. Hunt if needed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 22:19:25 GMT
I hope they wouldn't touch Williamson with a barge pole. Hopkins is sound enough on Brexit but is a Corbynite and Austin is just a bit of a twat but that's just my personal opinion. Hoey, Field and Mann are the only MPs elected as Labour i'd want to come across I think Agree with this, although Caroline Flint is coming across as quite sensible these days. |
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Post by Adrian on Jun 2, 2019 1:06:41 GMT
If it looked likely that we were going to have a GE this year I could imagine quite a few making the jump, if Farage refuses to do any kind of electoral pact. Suella jumps out from that list as a likely jumper.
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Post by curiousliberal on Jun 2, 2019 1:16:00 GMT
I've just remembered that there's no need for the Conservatives, at least, to jump if Farage keeps his word. He has said he won't stand candidates against them.
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 2, 2019 8:09:48 GMT
I've just remembered that there's no need for the Conservatives, at least, to jump if Farage keeps his word. He has said he won't stand candidates against them. The latest statements say that he is planning to have candidates in every constituency. Of course that could be bluster, pressure on those considering jumping etc |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 2, 2019 8:11:51 GMT
I've just remembered that there's no need for the Conservatives, at least, to jump if Farage keeps his word. He has said he won't stand candidates against them. The latest statements say that he is planning to have candidates in every constituency. Of course that could be bluster, pressure on those considering jumping etc More likely to keep the pressure on the Tories (and particularly the current leadership contenders) for 'no deal'. |
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