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Post by johnloony on May 6, 2019 13:15:46 GMT
They've just mentioned the disappearing Liberal candidate in Cardiff SE. I notice that there was an Independent Liberal in Feb 1974, who got 3,800 votes (compared with 2,978 for the official Liberal). What was that about?
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Post by pragmaticidealist on May 6, 2019 13:24:11 GMT
The Callaghan-Arrowsmith 'duet' was just on.
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Post by AdminSTB on May 6, 2019 13:35:02 GMT
The Callaghan-Arrowsmith 'duet' was just on. Probably the most entertaining part of the night. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 6, 2019 13:37:50 GMT
Dog Lovers Party - 79
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Post by johnloony on May 6, 2019 13:43:06 GMT
I notice that Frank Hansford-Miller of the ENP got exactly 4 times as many votes in October 1974 as in 1979.
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Post by johnloony on May 6, 2019 13:55:26 GMT
Wikipedia tells me that Pat Arrowsmith is the same age as my mother, went to the same school, and went to the same college at Cambridge university. My mother says she knew her at school,but not at uni. She played the violin.
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Post by Vibe on May 6, 2019 13:58:23 GMT
This is the Conservatives to lose.
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Post by greenhert on May 6, 2019 15:43:47 GMT
They've just mentioned the disappearing Liberal candidate in Cardiff SE. I notice that there was an Independent Liberal in Feb 1974, who got 3,800 votes (compared with 2,978 for the official Liberal). What was that about? According to Butler & Kavanagh (1974; February 1974 general election), two Liberal candidates were nominated by mistake in Cardiff SE in February 1974; Chris Bailey was the "Independent Liberal". In 1979 he deliberately failed to submit his nomination papers for Cardiff SE thinking that if all his supporters voted Conservative, James Callaghan would lose his own seat (in fact James Callaghan's majority in 1979 was 8,700). He was subsequently expelled from the Liberal Party (Butler & Kavanagh, 1979). |
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Post by Vibe on May 6, 2019 16:48:49 GMT
David Dimbleby asks if this is the death of the SNP!
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Post by afleitch on May 6, 2019 17:04:46 GMT
David Dimbleby asks if this is the death of the SNP! George Reid accurately predicting the Tories will do bugger all about devolution but the government would be a catalyst for devolution. |
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Post by Jack on May 6, 2019 17:44:23 GMT
David Dimbleby asks if this is the death of the SNP! If only. |
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Post by johnloony on May 6, 2019 17:47:47 GMT
They've just mentioned the disappearing Liberal candidate in Cardiff SE. I notice that there was an Independent Liberal in Feb 1974, who got 3,800 votes (compared with 2,978 for the official Liberal). What was that about? According to Butler & Kavanagh (1974; February 1974 general election), two Liberal candidates were nominated by mistake in Cardiff SE in February 1974; Chris Bailey was the "Independent Liberal". In 1979 he deliberately failed to submit his nomination papers for Cardiff SE thinking that if all his supporters voted Conservative, James Callaghan would lose his own seat (in fact James Callaghan's majority in 1979 was 8,700). He was subsequently expelled from the Liberal Party (Butler & Kavanagh, 1979). Haha! Not even a split, but an accident! One would think that if they nominated two candidates by mistake, they could have managed to put out a campaign message to tell the voters which one the "correct" one was, but they don't seem to have done that successfully. On the programme today, Bailey said that he was not selected as Liberal candidate and didn't avoid submitting the nomination papers in the first place. Which I don't necessarily believe. |
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Post by clyde1998 on May 6, 2019 18:56:22 GMT
Dutch Government welcomes Tory Government because they’re more favourable to the European Community than Labour. I can’t imagine the major parties changing their European position at any point in the future.
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Post by clyde1998 on May 6, 2019 19:00:58 GMT
Why are the SNP in lilac? Is that to avoid confusion with the Liberals?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 19:11:12 GMT
Glasgow Cathcart was the only Labour gain from the Tories (discounting by-elections)
The Tory share of the vote in Brighton Pavilion has declined in every election since 1979.
Leeds NW and Sheffield Hallam saw continuous falls in the Tory vote from 1979 to 2015.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 6, 2019 21:02:25 GMT
The Tory share of the vote in Brighton Pavilion has declined in every election since 1979. You could put it in your signature you know |
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Post by edgbaston on May 6, 2019 21:10:46 GMT
No mention of Bristol West  |
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Post by edgbaston on May 6, 2019 21:14:09 GMT
What was the context there? The were talking about Northern Ireland, apparently it was usual for the dead to still turn up and vote. Voter impersonation. There's a story in my local party of a new member who had just moved over from Ireland; he reportedly asked ”so who looks after your dead?” |
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Post by AdminSTB on May 6, 2019 23:09:07 GMT
The little bonus we get towards the end of the programme is some results of the local elections - which had been held on the same day - flashing up on the screen as well. They did provide some comfort to the outgoing Labour government, as they were recouping some of the serious losses they had suffered during the previous Parliament.
The downside was that they delayed the general election results coming through which perhaps made the programme duller and more prolonged than it might otherwise have been. The same thing happened in 2015.
It would be good if BBC Parliament would broadcast old local election programmes as well rather than constantly repeating proceedings in the various legislatures across the UK.
EDIT: I've moved this thread from General UK Politics to Historical Election Results.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 9:15:50 GMT
The Tory share of the vote in Brighton Pavilion has declined in every election since 1979. You could put it in your signature you know An interesting electoral fact that only gets more interesting the further we get from 1979! |
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