|
|
Post by finsobruce on Apr 25, 2019 11:14:49 GMT
As I said above, is a qualified GP's declaration sufficient or does there actually need to be a death certificate issued? From the hustings in 976
|
|
timmullen1
Labour
Closing account as BossMan declines to respond to messages seeking support.
Posts: 11,823 
|
Post by timmullen1 on Apr 25, 2019 11:53:23 GMT
|
|
Chris from Brum
Lib Dem
What I need is a strong drink and a peer group.
Posts: 9,732
|
Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 25, 2019 12:05:03 GMT
As I said above, is a qualified GP's declaration sufficient or does there actually need to be a death certificate issued?  |
|
|
|
Post by mrpastelito on Apr 25, 2019 12:05:23 GMT
As I said above, is a qualified GP's declaration sufficient or does there actually need to be a death certificate issued?
This councillor is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-COUNCILLOR!! |
|
|
|
Post by finsobruce on Apr 25, 2019 12:09:53 GMT
As I said above, is a qualified GP's declaration sufficient or does there actually need to be a death certificate issued?
This councillor is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-COUNCILLOR!! His attendance record is very poor recently.
He is not counted towards the quorum.
He has shuffled his papers for the last time.
|
|
Crimson King
Lib Dem
Be nice to each other and sing in tune
Posts: 9,844
|
Post by Crimson King on Apr 25, 2019 14:39:57 GMT
that is a fascinating read. Interestingly if 'proof of death' is received before the date for withdrawal then the RO effectively ignores it and only says its a countermanded poll if the number of nominations excuding the deceased exceeds the number of vacancies. so if there were 3 nominations for 2 vacancies, and one dies, then the other 2 are elected, which seems a bit hard on the party nominating the dead person. Returning to the matter of 'proof of death' it is interesting (and perhaps significant) that what this might be is left blank. Technically a death certificate is not proof of death, it is a certificate of the cause of death. Whilst one might be thought to depend on the other there is actually no requirement for the doctor signing that certificate to have seen the deceased and confirmed death and the wording in the appropriate bit says "date of death as stated to me(my bold)" It would be (just) possible for a doctor who has seen a patient recently to be contacted by someone to say the patient had died on such and such date and (from his knowledge of the patient and their condition) for the doctor to give an opinion of the cause of death, but for the patient to not actually be dead. This is more often an issue when third parties (erroneously) believe it is required for a doctor to confirm the fact of death before something can be done with the body, even when (for example) the head is no longer attached to the body following a RTC |
|
|
|
Post by listener on Apr 25, 2019 17:50:57 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by andrewteale on Apr 26, 2019 7:29:00 GMT
There were four candidates for this ward, two Tories (one of whom was seeking re-election), a Green and a Lib Dem; the Green and Lib Dem candidates are both active on Twitter so it looks like the deceased candidate is one of the Conservatives. |
|
timmullen1
Labour
Closing account as BossMan declines to respond to messages seeking support.
Posts: 11,823
|
Post by timmullen1 on Apr 26, 2019 10:53:15 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by notabrummie on Apr 26, 2019 18:55:38 GMT
District Councillor since 2007. |
|
|
|
Post by timrollpickering on Apr 29, 2019 14:31:32 GMT
|
|
Harry Hayfield
Green
Cavalier Gentleman (as in 17th century Cavalier)
Posts: 2,922
|
Post by Harry Hayfield on Apr 29, 2019 15:55:49 GMT
Now why does that ward name ring a bell I say? It's not often I am familiar with ward names outside Wales or Warwickshire, but why it rings a bell I have no idea. |
|
Tony Otim
Green
Suffering from Brexistential Despair
Posts: 11,902
|
Post by Tony Otim on Apr 29, 2019 16:02:25 GMT
Now why does that ward name ring a bell I say? It's not often I am familiar with ward names outside Wales or Warwickshire, but why it rings a bell I have no idea. As noted elsewhere, it was Iain Lindley's (who ran this site's predecessor) ward until he decided to stand down this year. |
|
|
|
Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 30, 2019 15:33:25 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by overthehill on Apr 30, 2019 19:25:27 GMT
It wouldn't hurt of the RO to put 'sad' before the word death would it. Salford had a press release with the mayor offering condolences, which seemed a nice touch! |
|
timmullen1
Labour
Closing account as BossMan declines to respond to messages seeking support.
Posts: 11,823
|
Post by timmullen1 on Apr 30, 2019 20:08:13 GMT
It wouldn't hurt of the RO to put 'sad' before the word death would it. Salford had a press release with the mayor offering condolences, which seemed a nice touch! I think there’s the legal document which is quoted here, and then room for separate personal tributes. When I was looking at the death in Wombourne I found the formal notice in the Elections section of the website but then a press release with numerous tributes to the deceased councillor in the “Newsroom” section. |
|
andrewp
Non-Aligned
Posts: 9,612
Member is Online
|
Post by andrewp on Apr 30, 2019 20:17:20 GMT
So I think the total of countermanded elections is 7 now. One each in
Broxtowe
Herefordshire
North Devon
Salford
South Ribble
South Staffs
Tendring
Anyone know how that number compares to other years?
|
|
|
|
Post by andrewteale on Apr 30, 2019 21:51:24 GMT
So I think the total of countermanded elections is 7 now. One each in Broxtowe Herefordshire North Devon Salford South Ribble South Staffs Tendring Anyone know how that number compares to other years? Comparing to other years in the same cycle... 2003 had eight postponed polls: Castle Morpeth, Lynemouth Dartford, Longfield/New Barn/Southfleet E Riding, Hessle Kings Lynn/W Norfolk, Rudham Rother, Rother Levels Sevenoaks, Edenbridge S/W Walsall, Bloxwich E Walsall, Hatherton Rushall 2007 had fourteen: Broxtowe, Beeston C Calderdale, Warley Cannock Chase, Hednesford S Gravesham, Meopham N Maldon, Burnham-on-Crouch N New Forest, Copythorne N/Minstead Newcastle upon Tyne, Wingrove N Somerset, Weston-super-Mare N Oswestry, Llanyblodwel/Pant S Glos, Frampton Cotterell S Staffs, Featherstone/Shareshill Torbay, Berry Head/Furzeham Vale Royal, Davenham/Moulton W Oxon, Carterton NE 2011 had either five or six: Cheshire E, Crewe S Newcastle-under-Lyme, Seabridge Newcastle upon Tyne, Byker Newcastle upon Tyne, Westerhope (in this case the candidate died on polling day and the poll was abandoned) Rushcliffe, Manvers S Kesteven, Deeping St James 2015 had five: Christchurch, N Highcliffe/Walkford Kettering, Rothwell Mole Valley, Holmwoods S Kesteven, Market/W Deeping Wyre Forest, Areley Kings/Riverside
Given that reorganisation means there are fewer wards now than there were in 2003 or 2007, seven postponed polls is a little more than previous years.
|
|
Foggy
Non-Aligned
Yn Ennill Yma
Posts: 6,135
|
Post by Foggy on Apr 30, 2019 22:06:59 GMT
So I think the total of countermanded elections is 7 now. One each in Broxtowe Herefordshire North Devon Salford South Ribble South Staffs Tendring Anyone know how that number compares to other years? Comparing to other years in the same cycle... 2003 had eight postponed polls: Castle Morpeth, Lynemouth 2007 had fourteen: Oswestry, Llanyblodwel/Pant Vale Royal, Davenham/Moulton 2011 had either five or six 2015 had five: Christchurch, N Highcliffe/Walkford
Given that reorganisation means there are fewer wards now than there were in 2003 or 2007, seven postponed polls is a little more than previous years.
Indeed. Of those 32/33 postponements, 4 occurred in local authorities that no longer exist. I'd say that means, in effect, there are proportionally more countermanded polls than in 2003 at the very least. |
|
|
|
Post by John Chanin on May 1, 2019 6:43:54 GMT
It's only a small sample of course, but it suggests that councillors are getting older.....
|
|
