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Post by marksenior on Oct 26, 2015 13:32:01 GMT
October Ipsos Mori poll
Con 36 Lab 32 UKIP 12 LDEM 10 Nats 6 Green 3
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 19, 2015 17:30:14 GMT
Notably un-dreadful ratings for Jez there!
And half of respondents having no opinion on Farron does rather tell its own story......
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Post by marksenior on Dec 16, 2015 22:24:32 GMT
December Ipsos Mori poll All giving VI Con 37 Lab 33 LDem 10 UKIP 9 Nats 6 Green 5
Headline Con 38 Lab 31 LDem 9 UKIP 9 Nats 6 Green 6
and EU referendum In 56 Out 33 DK 11
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Post by marksenior on Jan 28, 2016 18:28:24 GMT
January Ipsos Mori poll
All giving VI Con 39 Lab 33 LDem 8 UKIP 10 Nats 5 Green 5
Headline Con 40 Lab 31 LDem 7 UKIP 11 Nat 7 Green 4
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Post by neilm on Feb 4, 2016 10:12:05 GMT
Notably un-dreadful ratings for Jez there! And half of respondents having no opinion on Farron does rather tell its own story...... Friends of mine thought Nick Clegg was still leader, Farron clearly has no media exposure at all.
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Post by Antiochian on Mar 24, 2016 23:19:31 GMT
In the great tradition of offering only poll results that suit one's perspective I offer the latest IPSOS-Mori... LibDems in double digits!
Westminster voting intention: CON: 36% (-3) LAB: 34% (+1) UKIP: 11% (-1) LDEM: 10% (+4) GRN: 3% (-) (via Ipsos Mori / 19 - 22 Mar)
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Post by Crimson King on Mar 25, 2016 0:18:13 GMT
"I can feel the surge David"
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Post by jamie on Mar 25, 2016 12:07:19 GMT
Notably un-dreadful ratings for Jez there! And half of respondents having no opinion on Farron does rather tell its own story...... Friends of mine thought Nick Clegg was still leader, Farron clearly has no media exposure at all. He's on the media quite a bit, but it's mostly as someone offering a perspective as opposed to being the leader of a major party and he always seems to take the middle road and generally project the bland image that the Lib Dems really don't need right now.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 25, 2016 12:29:23 GMT
Which is sightly surprising really, given how he positioned himself before becoming leader.
I don't think Farron did himself any favours in talking up the prospect of a huge influx of "moderates" after Corbyn won the Labour leadership. His line towards Jez should have been - should still be - significantly more constructively critical IMO.
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Post by jamie on Mar 25, 2016 13:01:49 GMT
Which is sightly surprising really, given how he positioned himself before becoming leader. I don't think Farron did himself any favours in talking up the prospect of a huge influx of "moderates" after Corbyn won the Labour leadership. His line towards Jez should have been - should still be - significantly more constructively critical IMO. I think a problem for the Lib Dems (and we Greens tbh) is that there is a large number of young voters who move between our parties. In my view a lot of young people aren't ideologically Lib Dem, Green or Corbynista but like 'movement' politics. At the moment Corbyn is doing very well with these people and they were the main group of voters that in the past (pre 2010) would have left Labour for the Lib Dems. The same is true for the Green Party mainly in 2014 and 2015. I think the Lib Dems could attract the more middle class non-student demographic (basically Blairite's) currently with Labour but they would need to show they can actually win and are relevant. Farron probably could have gotten some of the soft left had Kendall won but in general he's just a pretty inspiring, poor leader.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 25, 2016 13:05:35 GMT
Which is sightly surprising really, given how he positioned himself before becoming leader. I don't think Farron did himself any favours in talking up the prospect of a huge influx of "moderates" after Corbyn won the Labour leadership. His line towards Jez should have been - should still be - significantly more constructively critical IMO. I think a problem for the Lib Dems (and we Greens tbh) is that there is a large number of young voters who move between our parties. In my view a lot of young people aren't ideologically Lib Dem, Green or Corbynista but like 'movement' politics. At the moment Corbyn is doing very well with these people and they were the main group of voters that in the past (pre 2010) would have left Labour for the Lib Dems. The same is true for the Green Party mainly in 2014 and 2015. I think the Lib Dems could attract the more middle class non-student demographic (basically Blairite's) currently with Labour but they would need to show they can actually win and are relevant. Farringdon probably could have gotten some of the soft left had Kendall won but in general he's just a pretty inspiring, poor leader. Heh, nice typo. And I think you meant *un*inspiring?
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 25, 2016 13:18:17 GMT
Friends of mine thought Nick Clegg was still leader, Farron clearly has no media exposure at all. He's on the media quite a bit, but it's mostly as someone offering a perspective as opposed to being the leader of a major party and he always seems to take the middle road and generally project the bland image that the Lib Dems really don't need right now. He isn't the leader of a major party............That's why. Far fewer votes than us and far fewer seats than the SNP. What is major about them?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 25, 2016 13:18:53 GMT
The only person I know who's mentioned Farron to me in the last six months is my dad, who mentioned him the other night as "that Cumbrian pillock the Liberals have been lumbered with".
He's got a smugness that probably puts people off.
The Lib Dems would be best targeting the educated middle class aged 27-45. That, or hit the pavement again.
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 25, 2016 13:24:57 GMT
I think a problem for the Lib Dems (and we Greens tbh) is that there is a large number of young voters who move between our parties. In my view a lot of young people aren't ideologically Lib Dem, Green or Corbynista but like 'movement' politics. At the moment Corbyn is doing very well with these people and they were the main group of voters that in the past (pre 2010) would have left Labour for the Lib Dems. The same is true for the Green Party mainly in 2014 and 2015. I think the Lib Dems could attract the more middle class non-student demographic (basically Blairite's) currently with Labour but they would need to show they can actually win and are relevant. Farringdon probably could have gotten some of the soft left had Kendall won but in general he's just a pretty inspiring, poor leader. Heh, nice typo. And I think you meant *un*inspiring? Inspired stationary!
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 25, 2016 13:27:04 GMT
The only person I know who's mentioned Farron to me in the last six months is my dad, who mentioned him the other night as "that Cumbrian pillock the Liberals have been lumbered with". He's got a smugness that probably puts people off. The Lib Dems would be best targeting the educated middle class aged 27-45. That, or hit the pavement again. From just how high? Is it really that bad? Wouldn't it cause more potholes? Ah!!! Potholes..........Goodey!
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 25, 2016 14:38:25 GMT
The only person I know who's mentioned Farron to me in the last six months is my dad, who mentioned him the other night as " that Cumbrian pillock the Liberals have been lumbered with". He's got a smugness that probably puts people off. The Lib Dems would be best targeting the educated middle class aged 27-45. That, or hit the pavement again. Adding insult to injury, given that he is from Lancashire
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Post by No Offence Alan on Mar 25, 2016 15:13:47 GMT
Friends of mine thought Nick Clegg was still leader, Farron clearly has no media exposure at all. Farron really is a wet blanket, isn't he? I mean at least the other leaders have always managed to get in the media but Farron is Mr Anonymous. A complete no hoper You seem to be under the false impression that politicians decide when they appear in the media and not the media themselves.
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Post by jamie on Mar 25, 2016 15:44:09 GMT
I think a problem for the Lib Dems (and we Greens tbh) is that there is a large number of young voters who move between our parties. In my view a lot of young people aren't ideologically Lib Dem, Green or Corbynista but like 'movement' politics. At the moment Corbyn is doing very well with these people and they were the main group of voters that in the past (pre 2010) would have left Labour for the Lib Dems. The same is true for the Green Party mainly in 2014 and 2015. I think the Lib Dems could attract the more middle class non-student demographic (basically Blairite's) currently with Labour but they would need to show they can actually win and are relevant. Farringdon probably could have gotten some of the soft left had Kendall won but in general he's just a pretty inspiring, poor leader. Heh, nice typo. And I think you meant *un*inspiring? Somehow that was originally meant to be 'Farron'.
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Post by jamie on Mar 25, 2016 15:47:23 GMT
He's on the media quite a bit, but it's mostly as someone offering a perspective as opposed to being the leader of a major party and he always seems to take the middle road and generally project the bland image that the Lib Dems really don't need right now. He isn't the leader of a major party............That's why. Far fewer votes than us and far fewer seats than the SNP. What is major about them? He leads the 4th largest party in Parliament, over a million votes nationally, part of government less than a year ago. Not as major Conservative, Labour or even UKIP, but still major in my view.
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Post by woollyliberal on Mar 25, 2016 22:40:06 GMT
The only person I know who's mentioned Farron to me in the last six months is my dad, who mentioned him the other night as " that Cumbrian pillock the Liberals have been lumbered with". He's got a smugness that probably puts people off. The Lib Dems would be best targeting the educated middle class aged 27-45. That, or hit the pavement again. Adding insult to injury, given that he is from Lancashire The bit of Cumbria he represents was in Lancashire until the 70s. It's close enough for most.
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