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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 16, 2019 17:56:57 GMT
Concerning the PresidentialElection the PollingStations will close in 3 hours.
Favourite is Mrs.Caputova from "ProgressiveSlovakia/PS" (founded 2017, no MPs, leftliberal ALDE), who is endorsed by centre-right parties (urban, EU-phile).
The second contender for the RunOff should be Fico's Sefcovic (from the EU), who is far behind in the RunOff-polls, though.
Third is Harabin, a judge, exCommunist and JusticeMinister for Meciar's party.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 16, 2019 22:33:15 GMT
22% done,
39% Caputova
19% Sefcovic
14.5% Harabin
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 16, 2019 22:39:09 GMT
Very little counted in Bratislava yet.
Agency "Focus" projects 42% for Caputova and Sefcovic ahead of Harabin.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 17, 2019 1:13:21 GMT
99.8% counted.
Caputova:Sefcovic:Harabin:Kotleba (L'SNS)
40.54 : 18.66 : 14.35 : 10.41
per regions:
59.64 : 13.57 : 10.23 : 04.67 Bratislava
45.32 : 15.95 : 11.98 : 09.21 Trnava (wider surrounding of B.)
36.34 : 22.44 : 15.78 : 11.61 Trencin
39.42 : 19.08 : 13.18 : 09.74 Nitra
33.75 : 20.10 : 16.28 : 13.29 Zilin
37.57 : 20.71 : 13.63 : 13.92 BanskaBystrica
30.24 : 20.17 : 18.39 : 11.56 Presov
38.97 : 18.12 : 15.21 : 10.40 Kosice
The wealthy capital versus the rest - as usual.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 17, 2019 1:20:18 GMT
According to a poster at another forum Sefcovic - an exCommie, who studied diplomacy in Moscow once - has said in his speech, how much he had enjoyed going to church in his childhood...
With the 25% of Harabin and Kotleba he would be above 40%, but that's already unlikely to achieve for someone, who has been too much EU-establishment for the taste of many poor&old voters in remote areas.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Mar 17, 2019 8:14:56 GMT
99.8% counted. Caputova:Sefcovic:Harabin:Kotleba (L'SNS) 40.54 : 18.66 : 14.35 : 10.41 per regions: 59.64 : 13.57 : 10.23 : 04.67 Bratislava 45.32 : 15.95 : 11.98 : 09.21 Trnava (wider surrounding of B.) 36.34 : 22.44 : 15.78 : 11.61 Trencin 39.42 : 19.08 : 13.18 : 09.74 Nitra 33.75 : 20.10 : 16.28 : 13.29 Zilin 37.57 : 20.71 : 13.63 : 13.92 BanskaBystrica 30.24 : 20.17 : 18.39 : 11.56 Presov 38.97 : 18.12 : 15.21 : 10.40 Kosice The wealthy capital versus the rest - as usual.That seems a bit of an exaggeration - the placings are identical across the nation. Kosice almost exactly mirrors the national result and it's a far cry from Bratislava. The overall result seems to show a strong degree of similarity across the country with the capital going with the national trend a bit more strongly than the rest. (Presumably leading the trend, as capitals tend to do.) Incidentally I accidentally wandered into a communist rally (with a small but vocal counter-protest) in Kosice during the first post-communist elections. It was slightly spine-tingling to hear the counter-protestors chanting "Dubcek! Svoboda!" and knowing that Dubcek was still alive to witness the changes. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 17, 2019 9:23:17 GMT
I can't see any palatable candidate there bar Caputova.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 17, 2019 12:40:01 GMT
99.8% counted. Caputova:Sefcovic:Harabin:Kotleba (L'SNS) 40.54 : 18.66 : 14.35 : 10.41 per regions: 59.64 : 13.57 : 10.23 : 04.67 Bratislava 45.32 : 15.95 : 11.98 : 09.21 Trnava (wider surrounding of B.) 36.34 : 22.44 : 15.78 : 11.61 Trencin 39.42 : 19.08 : 13.18 : 09.74 Nitra 33.75 : 20.10 : 16.28 : 13.29 Zilin 37.57 : 20.71 : 13.63 : 13.92 BanskaBystrica 30.24 : 20.17 : 18.39 : 11.56 Presov 38.97 : 18.12 : 15.21 : 10.40 Kosice The wealthy capital versus the rest - as usual.That seems a bit of an exaggeration - the placings are identical across the nation. Kosice almost exactly mirrors the national result and it's a far cry from Bratislava. The overall result seems to show a strong degree of similarity across the country with the capital going with the national trend a bit more strongly than the rest. (Presumably leading the trend, as capitals tend to do.) Incidentally I accidentally wandered into a communist rally (with a small but vocal counter-protest) in Kosice during the first post-communist elections. It was slightly spine-tingling to hear the counter-protestors chanting "Dubcek! Svoboda!" and knowing that Dubcek was still alive to witness the changes. I wouldn't call Caputova's deviation of 20% in Bratislava (in innerBratislava it's 30%) from the national average "a bit more". |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 17, 2019 12:43:02 GMT
I can't see any palatable candidate there bar Caputova. Well, she's the only pretty candidate... |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Mar 17, 2019 17:57:42 GMT
That seems a bit of an exaggeration - the placings are identical across the nation. Kosice almost exactly mirrors the national result and it's a far cry from Bratislava. The overall result seems to show a strong degree of similarity across the country with the capital going with the national trend a bit more strongly than the rest. (Presumably leading the trend, as capitals tend to do.) Incidentally I accidentally wandered into a communist rally (with a small but vocal counter-protest) in Kosice during the first post-communist elections. It was slightly spine-tingling to hear the counter-protestors chanting "Dubcek! Svoboda!" and knowing that Dubcek was still alive to witness the changes. I wouldn't call Caputova's deviation of 20% in Bratislava (in innerBratislava it's 30%) from the national average "a bit more". Well, it's quite a bit more - but it's still the same trend, just exaggerated. You've said it is "the wealthy capital versus the rest" but the capital chose the same candidate as the rest, put the same one second, the same third and the same 4th. Where is the "versus" - the conflict? In a country that seems to like Caputova best by a clear margin, in Bratislava they really like her. That doesn't look like a capital versus the rest, it looks like a capital leading the rest. Bratislava doesn't look out of step, it looks quintessential. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 17, 2019 22:54:50 GMT
I wouldn't call Caputova's deviation of 20% in Bratislava (in innerBratislava it's 30%) from the national average "a bit more". Well, it's quite a bit more - but it's still the same trend, just exaggerated. You've said it is "the wealthy capital versus the rest" but the capital chose the same candidate as the rest, put the same one second, the same third and the same 4th. Where is the "versus" - the conflict? In a country that seems to like Caputova best by a clear margin, in Bratislava they really like her. That doesn't look like a capital versus the rest, it looks like a capital leading the rest. Bratislava doesn't look out of step, it looks quintessential. I cannot see Your point: This time Bratislava voted with 20% even more differently compared to the rest (partly excluding the outer SubUrbs [Trnava]) than in last time's RunOff, when it was "only" 15%. (What is no surprise - a female environmental activist is probably not the best fit for attracting remote&rural areas...) |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Mar 18, 2019 9:47:52 GMT
Well, it's quite a bit more - but it's still the same trend, just exaggerated. You've said it is "the wealthy capital versus the rest" but the capital chose the same candidate as the rest, put the same one second, the same third and the same 4th. Where is the "versus" - the conflict? In a country that seems to like Caputova best by a clear margin, in Bratislava they really like her. That doesn't look like a capital versus the rest, it looks like a capital leading the rest. Bratislava doesn't look out of step, it looks quintessential. I cannot see Your point: This time Bratislava voted with 20% even more differently compared to the rest (partly excluding the outer SubUrbs [Trnava]) than in last time's RunOff, when it was "only" 15%. (What is no surprise - a female environmental activist is probably not the best fit for attracting remote&rural areas...) Yes, she did terribly, merely outperforming her closest rival by between 1.5: and 2:1 in the rural areas. I can't make it any clearer: there is no "versus" here: there is not one single region which chose a different candidate than the capital: the capital has gone with the national trend but exaggerated it. If you still think it is not an exaggeration to describe these results as "rich capital vs the rest" then that is your problem. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 27, 2019 12:09:07 GMT
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Post by John Chanin on Mar 27, 2019 13:18:47 GMT
I presume this guy is the Hungarian nationalist....... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 28, 2019 8:17:04 GMT
I wonder what the story is that bit in the far north-east that voted for Bugar. Surely no Magyars up there?
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 28, 2019 8:29:42 GMT
I wonder what the story is that bit in the far north-east that voted for Bugar. Surely no Magyars up there? Maybe they are Hungary for change? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 8:59:13 GMT
I wonder what the story is that bit in the far north-east that voted for Bugar. Surely no Magyars up there? A lot of the population in that area is Ruthenian and/or Orthodox or Greek Catholic. Perhaps his platform had pan-minority appeal. |
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 28, 2019 9:43:47 GMT
I wonder what the story is that bit in the far north-east that voted for Bugar. Surely no Magyars up there? A lot of the population in that area is Ruthenian and/or Orthodox or Greek Catholic. Perhaps his platform had pan-minority appeal. Yes it does look as though that bit (of northern Ruthenia?) is the one of the few bits Caputova doesn't penetrate to, so maybe its anyone else's. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 28, 2019 9:56:16 GMT
I wonder what the story is that bit in the far north-east that voted for Bugar. Surely no Magyars up there? Maybe they are Hungary for change? You are awful...Buda like you. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 28, 2019 11:58:19 GMT
Maybe they are Hungary for change? You are awful...Buda like you. Bit of a Pest yerself. |
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