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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 12, 2024 17:34:47 GMT
Since nomination signatures has come up before in this thread... Does anyone know the rationale behind nomination signatures being needed for the Mayor of London but not for the London Assembly? Was there some specific rationale for it at the time or was there some proposal to do away with signatures that left things where they are now? The Green Paper (Cm 3724) did not propose any specific arrangement but did say that it was important "electors are not confronted with a lengthy list of candidates which would be cumbersome and difficult to understand. We will need to consider what steps might be taken to ensure reasonable candidate lists." (Para 3.17) The White Paper (Cm 3897) says that candidates for Mayor must be able to demonstrate that they have support across London by providing signatures of a set number of people in each London Borough (para 4.23) and that Assembly constituency candidates must be nominated by registered voters in the boroughs which make up their constituency (para 4.25) but for London List candidates, "the party they represent will pay a single deposit which will cover all of its candidates" (para 4.26). |
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 5, 2024 10:51:05 GMT
From the Local Council by-elections - 2nd May 2024 - London thread: The deadline for nomination papers is today - we tried to submit ours yesterday but couldn't, as the officer was on annual leave and her deputy was also off work. Assuming there's someone in the office to receive our papers today... What does the law actually say/require about submission? Is it assuming almost a mere posting through a letter box (maybe getting a receptionist to receipt it) or does it require an actual meeting with the Returning Officer or their delegate? Because a situation where submission can be thwarted by staff absence (which may be better known in advance by some parties than others) could cause a real mess. I know that many electoral services advise booking appointments but not every candidate/party does so. Can they hide behind a lack of appointment (or even use "the appointments system" as an excuse for not notifying about a rejected paper when there is time to correct it) or could a would-be candidate who couldn't get anyone to accept the paper be able to get the election overturned on petition? |
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piperdave
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Post by piperdave on Apr 7, 2024 19:46:08 GMT
Having looked at the E&W Principal Areas Rules (and I would expect the GLA election rules to be the same in this respect), all that is required is the relevent forms be delivered to the place fixed by the Returning Officer, being the offices of the relevant council. ROs will normally say which office or a room so there is no doubt about where the papers should be delivered to. So long as all the relevant paperwork is received, the candidate's particulars as required have been completed and the paper is properly subscribed, the RO must accept the candidacy.
There is no obligation on the RO to advise a candidate if there are any problematic errors (the RO may correct minor, obvious errors). So if a candidate posts it through a letterbox in time, the RO will check it and rule, but it's up to the candidate to check it's been received and is ok.
The appointment system is something ROs offer to help candidates get things right the first time and there's an opportunity to fix things on the spot as it were, so that invalid nominations should be rare.
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Post by lackeroftalent on Apr 7, 2024 21:59:33 GMT
Having looked at the E&W Principal Areas Rules (and I would expect the GLA election rules to be the same in this respect), all that is required is the relevent forms be delivered to the place fixed by the Returning Officer, being the offices of the relevant council. ROs will normally say which office or a room so there is no doubt about where the papers should be delivered to. So long as all the relevant paperwork is received, the candidate's particulars as required have been completed and the paper is properly subscribed, the RO must accept the candidacy. There is no obligation on the RO to advise a candidate if there are any problematic errors (the RO may correct minor, obvious errors). So if a candidate posts it through a letterbox in time, the RO will check it and rule, but it's up to the candidate to check it's been received and is ok. The appointment system is something ROs offer to help candidates get things right the first time and there's an opportunity to fix things on the spot as it were, so that invalid nominations should be rare. No, No, No. In England, nomination papers must be hand delivered (are the rules different in Scotland?). Posted papers will not be accepted. |
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ColinJ
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Post by ColinJ on Apr 7, 2024 22:11:43 GMT
Having looked at the E&W Principal Areas Rules (and I would expect the GLA election rules to be the same in this respect), all that is required is the relevent forms be delivered to the place fixed by the Returning Officer, being the offices of the relevant council. ROs will normally say which office or a room so there is no doubt about where the papers should be delivered to. So long as all the relevant paperwork is received, the candidate's particulars as required have been completed and the paper is properly subscribed, the RO must accept the candidacy. There is no obligation on the RO to advise a candidate if there are any problematic errors (the RO may correct minor, obvious errors). So if a candidate posts it through a letterbox in time, the RO will check it and rule, but it's up to the candidate to check it's been received and is ok. The appointment system is something ROs offer to help candidates get things right the first time and there's an opportunity to fix things on the spot as it were, so that invalid nominations should be rare. No, No, No. In England, nomination papers must be hand delivered (are the rules different in Scotland?). Posted papers will not be accepted. What about hand "posted" through the council's letter box? I assume you mean "posted" in a pillar box? |
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piperdave
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Post by piperdave on Apr 8, 2024 20:28:19 GMT
Having looked at the E&W Principal Areas Rules (and I would expect the GLA election rules to be the same in this respect), all that is required is the relevent forms be delivered to the place fixed by the Returning Officer, being the offices of the relevant council. ROs will normally say which office or a room so there is no doubt about where the papers should be delivered to. So long as all the relevant paperwork is received, the candidate's particulars as required have been completed and the paper is properly subscribed, the RO must accept the candidacy. There is no obligation on the RO to advise a candidate if there are any problematic errors (the RO may correct minor, obvious errors). So if a candidate posts it through a letterbox in time, the RO will check it and rule, but it's up to the candidate to check it's been received and is ok. The appointment system is something ROs offer to help candidates get things right the first time and there's an opportunity to fix things on the spot as it were, so that invalid nominations should be rare. No, No, No. In England, nomination papers must be hand delivered (are the rules different in Scotland?). Posted papers will not be accepted. It's the Local Elections (Principal Areas) (England and Wales) Rules 2006 that I was looking at. That said, I have noticed that legislation.gov.uk is not updating those particular rules so there may have been amendments since then to change the required method of delivery. |
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