timmullen1
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 23, 2019 14:52:46 GMT
I have just stumbled across this on YouTube Well today I learned that Tom Brake is a former Deputy Leader of the House. I wonder if it was a coincidence that LD Tom McNally was Deputy Leader of the Lords for most of the Coalition? Sir Humphrey: “It’s a harmless job, let’s allocate to the LDs Prime Minister”. |
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neilm
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Post by neilm on Mar 23, 2019 16:13:37 GMT
I have just stumbled across this on YouTube It would have been interesting if the debate had been particularly poorly attended and the "noes" had defeated a motion to suspend. Has this ever happened? |
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Post by Andrew_S on Mar 23, 2019 16:41:02 GMT
I have just stumbled across this on YouTube You could tell that Tom Brake didn't believe in what he was doing as he moved the motion against Paul Flynn. |
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Post by andrewp on Mar 23, 2019 16:49:56 GMT
Newport town centre looks quite different to how I’d imagine it. Only ever driven around the outskirts. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2019 17:41:33 GMT
Any party that can get its entire activist base to turn out for a by-election is clearly a force to be reckoned with.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2019 18:04:34 GMT
He has taken the talking-about-oneself-in-the-third-person thing to a new level of annoyingness. If I lived in Newport West and were tempted to vote for him, I would desist for that reason alone Hah! That is glorious. Maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt and say he copied and pasted it from somewhere else and overlooked editing it - or that a gofer wrote it on his behalf and didn't properly think it through - or maybe he's just a silly billy.  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 23, 2019 19:02:54 GMT
He has taken the talking-about-oneself-in-the-third-person thing to a new level of annoyingness. If I lived in Newport West and were tempted to vote for him, I would desist for that reason alone That tweet doesn't even make sense. What does the "beyond ..." clause mean? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 23, 2019 19:05:12 GMT
I'm sorry - "bravely standing" - it's a by-elections in South Wales, not the front line in Syria... Perhaps the bravery is in facing the risk of Brian Silvester turning up to help ? |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2019 19:11:12 GMT
I'm sorry - "bravely standing" - it's a by-elections in South Wales, not the front line in Syria... Perhaps the bravery is in facing the risk of Brian Silvester turning up to help ? We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2019 19:27:01 GMT
He has taken the talking-about-oneself-in-the-third-person thing to a new level of annoyingness. If I lived in Newport West and were tempted to vote for him, I would desist for that reason alone That tweet doesn't even make sense. What does the "beyond ..." clause mean? presumably "apart from" because Waters stood in the Lewisham East by-election last June. |
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 23, 2019 20:01:54 GMT
Perhaps the bravery is in facing the risk of Brian Silvester turning up to help ? We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. "....or close up the Newport wall with our SDP dead..." |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2019 20:18:40 GMT
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. "....or close up the Newport wall with our SDP dead..." "All things are ready, if our leaflets be so" |
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Post by Penddu on Mar 24, 2019 20:26:41 GMT
Some feedback from the fight for third place. Plaid getting good response and seem to be picking up a lot of potential voters. No sign of ATWA - they might have peaked early. Neil Hamilton is actively losing votes for UKIP - Lib Dems very quiet. Others? Nowhere.
For first place Labour seems comfortably ahead - Conservatives picking up some Brexit/UKIP vote but getting a bad reception on doorstep for recent/current performance. But very volatile and next week in Westminster could turn everything upside down....
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john07
Labour & Co-operative
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Post by john07 on Mar 26, 2019 1:52:16 GMT
Well they have a chance - more than he does Well he did create something of a political earthquake in Tatton in 1997! A 16,000 majority turned to 11,000 the other way. |
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clyde1998
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Post by clyde1998 on Mar 26, 2019 3:29:06 GMT
Some feedback from the fight for third place. Plaid getting good response and seem to be picking up a lot of potential voters. No sign of ATWA - they might have peaked early. Neil Hamilton is actively losing votes for UKIP - Lib Dems very quiet. Others? Nowhere. For first place Labour seems comfortably ahead - Conservatives picking up some Brexit/UKIP vote but getting a bad reception on doorstep for recent/current performance. But very volatile and next week in Westminster could turn everything upside down.... Given the recent Wales-wide polling, it would be a surprise if Plaid aren't third at worst IMO. The Conservatives don't have much they can take from non-Labour parties, which only got a combined 8.3% in 2017. Perhaps Plaid could be the big winners here - but that could be down to what happens in regards to Brexit before the by-election. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 7:58:52 GMT
Some feedback from the fight for third place. Plaid getting good response and seem to be picking up a lot of potential voters. No sign of ATWA - they might have peaked early. Neil Hamilton is actively losing votes for UKIP - Lib Dems very quiet. Others? Nowhere. For first place Labour seems comfortably ahead - Conservatives picking up some Brexit/UKIP vote but getting a bad reception on doorstep for recent/current performance. But very volatile and next week in Westminster could turn everything upside down.... Given the recent Wales-wide polling, it would be a surprise if Plaid aren't third at worst IMO. The Conservatives don't have much they can take from non-Labour parties, which only got a combined 8.3% in 2017. Perhaps Plaid could be the big winners here - but that could be down to what happens in regards to Brexit before the by-election. by elections can be massive shocks but it would have to be a massive turnaround for Plaid to push for second |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 26, 2019 13:29:41 GMT
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Post by Penddu on Mar 26, 2019 20:53:23 GMT
Given the recent Wales-wide polling, it would be a surprise if Plaid aren't third at worst IMO. The Conservatives don't have much they can take from non-Labour parties, which only got a combined 8.3% in 2017. Perhaps Plaid could be the big winners here - but that could be down to what happens in regards to Brexit before the by-election. by elections can be massive shocks but it would have to be a massive turnaround for Plaid to push for second I think this will be Plaid's best performance in Newport.... but a long way off second |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 26, 2019 21:45:01 GMT
by elections can be massive shocks but it would have to be a massive turnaround for Plaid to push for second I think this will be Plaid's best performance in Newport.... but a long way off second Plaid have never saved their deposit in Newport so it’s a fairly low bar 😛 |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 26, 2019 21:58:34 GMT
I think this will be Plaid's best performance in Newport.... but a long way off second Plaid have never saved their deposit in Newport so it’s a fairly low bar 😛 Some of you will probably have come across a story on social media, where a muslim woman in full facemask is on a train, talking to her child in a language that is not English. A gammon-faced man eventually loses his rag, and upbraids her for not speaking English, only to be put down by another passenger who tells him she is speaking Welsh! Collapse of stout party, and bigotry is duly defeated. This story is usually said to be set in Newport. Now, I don't know much about Newport's ethnic and religious minority communities, in terms of either size or constitution, but I do know that Newport is not really a Welsh-speaking city, nor are the towns nearby nor to any great extent the valleys of historic Monmouthshire. The story is in any case likely to be invented, but the author might have considered a better setting for their tale of social justice. |
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