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Post by andrewteale on Dec 8, 2012 11:50:26 GMT
Just put in my feedback for this, on the off-chance it ever gets implemented. Basically: (1) I still don't like Bolton North and Darwen, but so many of the other objectives of my counter-proposal have been achieved in the revised recommendations that I'm going to shut up about it; (1A) pointing out that Kris owns this forum  ; (2) support for most of the rest of Greater Manchester, particularly the two Bury seats and the unchanged seats; (3) proposed a change to the boundary between Burnley/Accrington East and Rossendale/Oswaltwistle; Baxenden and Spring Hill to move to Rossendale, Altham and Clayton-le-Moors the other way. Consultation closes on Monday. |
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Post by stepney on Dec 8, 2012 18:37:03 GMT
(3) proposed a change to the boundary between Burnley/Accrington East and Rossendale/Oswaltwistle; Baxenden and Spring Hill to move to Rossendale, Altham and Clayton-le-Moors the other way. Surely that's (trying to) open up a can of worms that isn't going to get anywhere. Easier just to try and swap Baxenden and Central, so the whole of Accrington itself is in one seat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 12:03:24 GMT
So the government is planning to hold a vote in the Lords on Monday. Any chance that the government will win this vote?
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 9, 2013 12:09:07 GMT
There's always a chance, but the PM's reported comments to his MPs last night suggest he is not exactly brimming with optimism  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 12:55:53 GMT
is there not a lords vote due on this very shortly ..
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 9, 2013 13:06:51 GMT
It has already been mentioned a few posts up!
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 9, 2013 13:07:21 GMT
is there not a lords vote due on this very shortly .. On Monday. Amendment 28A to the Electoral Registration and Administration Bill: After Clause 5 LORD HART OF CHILTON LORD KERR OF KINLOCHARD LORD RENNARD LORD WIGLEY Insert the following new Clause— “Amendment of Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011 In section 10 of the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011, in subsection (3), leave out from “(a)” to “and” and insert “not before 1st October 2018”.” |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 13:09:13 GMT
and it will pass I believe ?
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Post by Andrew_S on Jan 9, 2013 18:19:45 GMT
How much will this zombie review cost over the course of 2013?
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 9, 2013 18:21:39 GMT
Most of the costs of the review will have already been incurred so I doubt the amendment will make much difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 7:29:48 GMT
"In October 2012, Lord Wallace told the House of Lords that the Boundary Commissions had spent £5.8million as of August 2012 and would spend a further £3.8million from September 2012 until the end of the Review"
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Post by Andrew_S on Jan 21, 2013 18:24:09 GMT
"In October 2012, Lord Wallace told the House of Lords that the Boundary Commissions had spent £5.8million as of August 2012 and would spend a further £3.8million from September 2012 until the end of the Review" I take it a lot of that is being spent on five star hotels and luxury restaurants. |
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Post by piperdave on Jan 21, 2013 22:25:12 GMT
The Scottish Commission doesn't expect to spend more than £360,000 in any of the financial years 2012-13, 2013-14 and 2014-15 and that includes salaries, office costs etc. The costs directly attributable to the review look like they will come in at around £225,000 (from 2011-2015, actual and budgeted).
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 24, 2013 10:57:57 GMT
A small note that the Lords' amendment killing the Boundary Review was altered slightly at Third Reading, so that the Boundary Commissions will be ordered to report "before 1st October 2018 but not before 1st September 2018".
The Commons is going to consider Lords amendments to the Bill next Tuesday, 29 January.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 11:03:58 GMT
Jesus wept.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 24, 2013 11:28:24 GMT
As the amendment stands, it doesn't cancel the current review, it just extends the timescale. There is no provision to start again in 2015 so if no further legislation is passed then the current proposals will still go into effect, just 5 years later than planned.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 24, 2013 11:52:41 GMT
Except there aren't any current proposals, because the Commissions have not reported.
Having made a big fuss about the current constituencies being based on a redistribution set by ten year-old register at the time of the last election, it might be a little inconsistent for a Conservative government to let the current review based on 2010 electorates proceed to report in 2018 and then be used at a general election in 2020.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 24, 2013 12:07:02 GMT
So do the Commissions have the option to scrap what they have done already and start again from scratch with 2015 electorates? There doesn't seem to be anything in the amendment to allow this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 13:45:35 GMT
It beggars belief that we're in this position.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 24, 2013 14:14:55 GMT
So do the Commissions have the option to scrap what they have done already and start again from scratch with 2015 electorates? There doesn't seem to be anything in the amendment to allow this. It doesn't need to be on the face of the Bill. All that the existing legislation says is that they need to report by 2013; it doesn't say they have to use the 1 December 2010 electoral register. |
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