Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Feb 3, 2015 16:02:31 GMT
Except in most cases they really don't. Or rather they may think they know, but they don't really understand. I guess it comes down to whether you think its fair game to exploit people for their stupidity.
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Post by cefin on Feb 3, 2015 16:53:14 GMT
James Cole, Deputy Chairman of UKIP Wales, and PPC for Llanelli (?) has resigned from the party. Allegedly.
I may be able to shed a little light on this
1) James Cole is not deputy chairman of Wales (In fact I do not think that there is one)
2) As he failed to get the required two thirds vote from branch members at the hustings he attended he was never the Llanelli PPC
Apart from that the rest of the sentence is fairly accurate.
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Post by neilm on Feb 3, 2015 18:33:53 GMT
It takes two-thirds to get selected? Do you have rounds of balloting if no one candidate gets that?
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Post by casualobserver on Feb 3, 2015 21:19:17 GMT
I wouldn't expect you to say anything else. Â While he says what he does in an outspoken manner, and child abuse seems to be a big issue for him, I can't see that the broad thrust of what he says - Labour is intolerant of dissent, Ed's a crap leader, the Welsh NHS is in a state - is not fair comment and is the product of a deranged mind. Actually, his comments are rather wild and unsubstantiated in relation to his general comments on abuse. Reading his blog, it sounds as though he stumbled across the Labour 25 website and was predisposed to swallow it wholesale. |
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Post by casualobserver on Feb 3, 2015 21:32:54 GMT
It takes two-thirds to get selected? Do you have rounds of balloting if no one candidate gets that? I tust they have plentiful supplies of sulphur, Anthracene and potassium perchlorate |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 3, 2015 21:33:23 GMT
It takes two-thirds to get selected? Do you have rounds of balloting if no one candidate gets that? I think the two thirds requirement is just when there's only a single candidate |
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Post by mrhell on Feb 4, 2015 12:06:20 GMT
This is too good to be just left in the Redcar and Cleveland parts of the forum (and the article does say resignations are expected). Ten Redcar and Cleveland councillors are expected to resign because of the seven deselections that have taken place (it includes at least some of those seven). "They will also take part in today's mass resignation, with a demonstration set to take place in Redcar at 11am outside the office of Labour candidate Anna Turley."  www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ten-labour-councillors-expected-resign-8575962 |
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 4, 2015 13:21:06 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 4, 2015 15:27:01 GMT
These Redcar councillors must be unimpressed that they've been removed, whilst the idiots who ran Rotherham have not suffered the same fate.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 4, 2015 15:58:33 GMT
Well, let's see how many current Labour councillors there stand this May - and indeed in Rotherham's all outs next year.
(why the delay in that until 2016, btw?)
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Post by mrhell on Feb 4, 2015 18:17:48 GMT
Perhaps it's too late to legally do it for this year?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 4, 2015 19:39:59 GMT
James Cole, Deputy Chairman of UKIP Wales, and PPC for Llanelli (?) has resigned from the party. Allegedly.
I may be able to shed a little light on this
1) James Cole is not deputy chairman of Wales (In fact I do not think that there is one)
2) As he failed to get the required two thirds vote from branch members at the hustings he attended he was never the Llanelli PPC
Apart from that the rest of the sentence is fairly accurate.
Well I did say allegedly  and inserted a question mark. Though WalesOnline seems to believe he has held both positions in the past. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 4, 2015 19:41:26 GMT
Perhaps it's too late to legally do it for this year? Or to avoid a febrile atmosphere in '15? |
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Post by thirdchill on Feb 4, 2015 20:29:46 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 4, 2015 20:30:04 GMT
I'm not sure coup is quite the right word as the local executive/DLP/LGC are always empowered to do this. Whether some would have been removed if they had managed to get a quorum is an interesting question.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 20:45:45 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 4, 2015 22:39:54 GMT
Let alone in Lymm and Happy Grappy! |
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 5, 2015 0:42:16 GMT
I'm not sure coup is quite the right word as the local executive/DLP/LGC are always empowered to do this. Whether some would have been removed if they had managed to get a quorum is an interesting question.... I chose my words carefully. As this seem to happen in quite a few cases one wonders if the lack of quorum was, erm, arranged... It also seems to be a complete power struggle between the council group and the MP/prospective MP with the latter two holding the whip hand over the exec. In other words, what a complete basket-case of a local party... |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 5, 2015 0:57:21 GMT
I'm not sure coup is quite the right word as the local executive/DLP/LGC are always empowered to do this. Whether some would have been removed if they had managed to get a quorum is an interesting question.... I chose my words carefully. As this seem to happen in quite a few cases one wonders if the lack of quorum was, erm, arranged... It also seems to be a complete power struggle between the council group and the MP/prospective MP with the latter two holding the whip hand over the exec. In other words, what a complete basket-case of a local party... Just to prove it's not only Portsmouth LibDems with a few local difficulties |
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 5, 2015 1:08:54 GMT
I chose my words carefully. As this seem to happen in quite a few cases one wonders if the lack of quorum was, erm, arranged... It also seems to be a complete power struggle between the council group and the MP/prospective MP with the latter two holding the whip hand over the exec. In other words, what a complete basket-case of a local party... Just to prove it's not only Portsmouth LibDems with a few local difficulties Bearing in mind everything that's gone on our relative unity has been pretty remarkable. Certainly we haven't come close to the kind of implosion taking place here. |
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and inserted a question mark.
