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Post by Merseymike on Jan 12, 2015 12:10:28 GMT
Yawn. He doesn't actually think so. He wanted to return to the Labour party but a bit too much water has flown under the bridge for at least the time being - but he made the decision that he wanted to do other things with his life right now and has been quite open about it, which is why he isn't defending his seat. He will vote Labour in the election. He doesn't live in Berger's seat! I noticed on Twitter he has been said voters in Wavertree should vote for Peter Cranie. No love lost between Morrison and Berger! Given what happened, I can't blame him. I'm biased, he is a friend, and I put friends above party. |
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Post by Khunanup on Jan 13, 2015 13:37:34 GMT
First defection from UKIP in Portsmouth. Surprisingly it's not the wife of the ousted erstwhile Portsmouth South parliamentary candidate!
Cllr Godier was unable to vote in the budget meeting in December as he was in arrears with his Council Tax.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 13, 2015 14:26:51 GMT
First defection from UKIP in Portsmouth. Surprisingly it's not the wife of the ousted erstwhile Portsmouth South parliamentary candidate! Cllr Godier was unable to vote in the budget meeting in December as he was in arrears with his Council Tax. Unless you genuinely have money problems,how hard is it get your council tax sorted? |
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Post by Khunanup on Jan 13, 2015 14:34:20 GMT
First defection from UKIP in Portsmouth. Surprisingly it's not the wife of the ousted erstwhile Portsmouth South parliamentary candidate! Cllr Godier was unable to vote in the budget meeting in December as he was in arrears with his Council Tax. Unless you genuinely have money problems,how hard is it get your council tax sorted? I believe he did have but still as a councillor it's really something you can't afford to do, especially when it's voting on the budget. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 13, 2015 15:36:53 GMT
Unless you genuinely have money problems,how hard is it get your council tax sorted? I believe he did have but still as a councillor it's really something you can't afford to do, especially when it's voting on the budget. Absolutely- I was thinking more of the councillors you sometimes see who say they "forgot" or it was an oversight. Most of us can't forget something taken out of our accounts by DD. |
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Post by thirdchill on Jan 13, 2015 18:52:15 GMT
TBH Joe this is a Labour party thing. Everyone does some canvassing - but some MP's and Labour groups see backbench councillors as nothing more than leaflet deliverers, and the regional structure of the party is obsessed with a particular style of voter ID. Its not one I have a lot of time for. Clearly this councillor wasn't working in that prescribed way. It isn't like this everywhere but there have been a few councillors deselected in the last few months who could not possibly be described as second rate. What amazes me is that some (and not necessarily just in your own party either) do not see involvement in local campaigns as remotely important, or if they see some value in it, do not see it as promoting the party in any way. Some particularly high profile local campaigns will see a far bigger boost to a party identified with it than most canvassing. |
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Post by Sharon on Jan 14, 2015 1:08:39 GMT
First defection from UKIP in Portsmouth. Surprisingly it's not the wife of the ousted erstwhile Portsmouth South parliamentary candidate! Cllr Godier was unable to vote in the budget meeting in December as he was in arrears with his Council Tax. Good news for GVJ |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 14, 2015 11:57:40 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 14, 2015 12:08:45 GMT
Not an acquisition I bet many local Labour activists would welcome- horrible man. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 14, 2015 12:11:08 GMT
If they didn't want it then his membership application could have been refused
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 14, 2015 13:54:17 GMT
If they didn't want it then his membership application could have been refused A lot of people still won't be happy, and Salford Labour did have a reputation for accepting all sorts of people regardless of what ordinary members wanted- Gang War by Peter Walsh has some eyewatering stories in that regard,especially around an attempt to beat up and drive out Stan Orme. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 14, 2015 14:04:47 GMT
Though membership is run nationally - there are ways of ensuring an application isn't immediately accepted. I wonder whether they see him as a bruiser capable of dealing with Ukip?
We have our former Tory leader as a Labour councillor, Les Byrom.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 14, 2015 14:35:46 GMT
I wonder how common membership refusals are across the parties.
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Post by thirdchill on Jan 14, 2015 14:39:54 GMT
Not an acquisition I bet many local Labour activists would welcome- horrible man. Possibly including a couple of the councillors in salford labour probably, though they'll keep quiet about it if they are unhappy (to avoid getting on the wrong side of the mayor). |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 15, 2015 0:02:32 GMT
Though membership is run nationally - there are ways of ensuring an application isn't immediately accepted. I wonder whether they see him as a bruiser capable of dealing with Ukip? We have our former Tory leader as a Labour councillor, Les Byrom. Wasn't he the right winger who lost his seat on the fire authority then miraculously decided he was a socialist all within the space of a cpl of months? Behind the scenes it had been going along a lot longer than that - but to give him credit he didn't get gifted a safe seat - in fact he fought a seat which had been LibDem for years and campaigned hard to win. We now hold all three seats and he seems perfectly happy as a Labour councillor |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 15, 2015 14:15:39 GMT
Behind the scenes it had been going along a lot longer than that - but to give him credit he didn't get gifted a safe seat - in fact he fought a seat which had been LibDem for years and campaigned hard to win. We now hold all three seats and he seems perfectly happy as a Labour councillor With his little sincure. I'm aware of both the case and the fellow your welcome to him, just be careful when you ask him to share his play things. Southport Tories have been tearing themselves to bits over the past few years and have lost most of their seats - another defected to us earlier this year and others have gone independent. Seems to be entirely based on personalities as well but I think they haven't a hope of wining it back next time |
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Post by mrhell on Jan 15, 2015 16:02:59 GMT
We did the same in Newcastle a while ago.
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Post by john07 on Jan 15, 2015 17:18:58 GMT
I wonder how common membership refusals are across the parties. We recently refused a former activist who tried to rejoin - he turned up shortly afterwards in UKIP. When I was a councillor in Cheylesmore we encountered a former member called Harry Prosser who indicated that he wished to rejoin. We passed the application form up to Coventry South West Constituency. His application was turned down when some of the older members recalled his 'previous' including defecting to the Liberals at one stage. Basically he was a complete lunatic. He styled himself as Harry Cymru Prosser or sometimes Harry Oldie Prosser. For the rest of my spell on the council I received cassette tapes of his thoughts on all issues especially the elderly (the Oldies). |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 15, 2015 17:48:42 GMT
We recently refused a former activist who tried to rejoin - he turned up shortly afterwards in UKIP. When I was a councillor in Cheylesmore we encountered a former member called Harry Prosser who indicated that he wished to rejoin. We passed the application form up to Coventry South West Constituency. His application was turned down when some of the older members recalled his 'previous' including defecting to the Liberals at one stage. Basically he was a complete lunatic. He styled himself as Harry Cymru Prosser or sometimes Harry Oldie Prosser. For the rest of my spell on the council I received cassette tapes of his thoughts on all issues especially the elderly (the Oldies). Googling "Harry Prosser" "Coventry" interestingly brings up someone of that name playing for Cov RUFC many moons ago. |
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Post by listener on Jan 18, 2015 7:17:49 GMT
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