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Post by greenchristian on Jul 15, 2014 17:09:29 GMT
Has he been expelled, or has he just been told that he cannot stay as a councillor representing the party? Expulsion would need action by the national party and he would have the right to appeal, and I'm not aware that any of that has happened. I have no local knowledge of this but I think it is more to do with a series of comments he has made on the social media over quite a long time, with this being the 'final straw' for some in his local party, who as Benjamin notes are probably fairly twitchy about potential embarrassment caused by some of his public comments. If so, I assume he would remain a party member and presumably could, after a period of time, put himself forward again as a potential candidate, though would then need to win support from his local party. From what I can find on the internet, he's been expelled from the Green group of councillors, but not from the Green Party. And I'd say you're probably right about this being the final straw. It seems that it's pretty much the same thing as happened with Christina Summers - her vote against the council supporting same-sex marriage followed a number of incidents where the way she expressed both her pro-life views and her traditional Christian sexual morality caused friction with both the rest of the group and local party.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 16, 2014 13:03:43 GMT
Reported that Barry Dodson, councillor for Rotherham East ward, has resigned from the Labour Party. He was elected Mayor of Rotherham at the annual meeting last month but resigned on 27 June, less than three weeks into the role. The reason for these moves has now become apparent: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28319557
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Jul 17, 2014 22:40:10 GMT
I'm a Socialist, now, by the way. I thought I'd make it official some time ago but was a little too cautious (still retaining some feeling that the political left was too far gone). But, after a long talk with a man (who will remain nameless) and some soul-searching, I've realised that it's where I belong.
My views on issues such as the economy and my socially liberal tendencies would, forever, keep me isolated in any organisation of the radical right. My grandfather was a communist (though I never knew him) and it seems fitting, for personal reasons, that I should carry the family name in that direction.
I'm only glad I realised this before I'd wasted too much time on political nationalism (reading John Bean's biography convinced my that, if I'd have continued on that path, I'd regret it).
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 17, 2014 23:41:50 GMT
I'm a Socialist, now, by the way. I thought I'd make it official some time ago but was a little too cautious (still retaining some feeling that the political left was too far gone). But, after a long talk with a man (who will remain nameless) and some soul-searching, I've realised that it's where I belong. My views on issues such as the economy and my socially liberal tendencies would, forever, keep me isolated in any organisation of the radical right. My grandfather was a communist (though I never knew him) and it seems fitting, for personal reasons, that I should carry the family name in that direction. I'm only glad I realised this before I'd wasted too much time on political nationalism (reading John Bean's biography convinced my that, if I'd have continued on that path, I'd regret it). That's interesting - you need to get your description altered! Do you feel there is a party which suits you?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 0:46:05 GMT
I'm a Socialist, now, by the way. I thought I'd make it official some time ago but was a little too cautious (still retaining some feeling that the political left was too far gone). But, after a long talk with a man (who will remain nameless) and some soul-searching, I've realised that it's where I belong. My views on issues such as the economy and my socially liberal tendencies would, forever, keep me isolated in any organisation of the radical right. My grandfather was a communist (though I never knew him) and it seems fitting, for personal reasons, that I should carry the family name in that direction. I'm only glad I realised this before I'd wasted too much time on political nationalism (reading John Bean's biography convinced my that, if I'd have continued on that path, I'd regret it). That's interesting - you need to get your description altered! Do you feel there is a party which suits you? Dooooooooooooooooh PSP
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 5:17:56 GMT
Please choose the Patriotic Socialists, Crommers, they need all the help they can get!
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 18, 2014 7:36:43 GMT
Please choose the Patriotic Socialists, Crommers, they need all the help they can get! I suspect that Crommers is too clued up about politics and political history to submit to the will of Stottie!
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 18, 2014 9:48:53 GMT
I said 'party', not a fan club for an individual
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Jul 21, 2014 15:20:46 GMT
I'm a Socialist, now, by the way. I thought I'd make it official some time ago but was a little too cautious (still retaining some feeling that the political left was too far gone). But, after a long talk with a man (who will remain nameless) and some soul-searching, I've realised that it's where I belong. My views on issues such as the economy and my socially liberal tendencies would, forever, keep me isolated in any organisation of the radical right. My grandfather was a communist (though I never knew him) and it seems fitting, for personal reasons, that I should carry the family name in that direction. I'm only glad I realised this before I'd wasted too much time on political nationalism (reading John Bean's biography convinced my that, if I'd have continued on that path, I'd regret it). That's interesting - you need to get your description altered! Do you feel there is a party which suits you? The Socialist Labour Party is the most agreeable to me. The various Trotskyite groupings are a little ultra-left for my tastes, the CPGB-ML goes too far the other way and, for some reason, I didn't think RESPECT would be the best fit for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:34:54 GMT
That's interesting - you need to get your description altered! Do you feel there is a party which suits you? The Socialist Labour Party is the most agreeable to me. The various Trotskyite groupings are a little ultra-left for my tastes, the CPGB-ML goes too far the other way and, for some reason, I didn't think RESPECT would be the best fit for me. Their blend of left-wing politics and casual racism rather different from yours?
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Jul 21, 2014 16:52:40 GMT
The Socialist Labour Party is the most agreeable to me. The various Trotskyite groupings are a little ultra-left for my tastes, the CPGB-ML goes too far the other way and, for some reason, I didn't think RESPECT would be the best fit for me. Their blend of left-wing politics and casual racism rather different from yours?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 23, 2014 15:08:54 GMT
Cllr Roy Cartlidge, Cheshire East UA and Crewe Town Council.
Labour to West End Socialist Independent.
By the way, did I mention that he's been deselected for May 2015? ;-)
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 23, 2014 18:57:37 GMT
I was just going to add that - honestly, some people...
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 24, 2014 10:52:52 GMT
Cllr Roy Cartlidge, Cheshire East UA and Crewe Town Council. Labour to West End Socialist Independent. By the way, did I mention that he's been deselected for May 2015? ;-) Isn't that the second deselection-related defection from Labour in Cheshire East? Yes. I know we view deselection-related defections wryly, but for Roy Cartlidge to leave the party is pretty astonishing. I suspect that if you cut him in half you'd find Labour running through him like a stick of rock. There do seem to be issues around selection in Crewe, with some very odd choices being made .........
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 11:05:42 GMT
Isn't that the second deselection-related defection from Labour in Cheshire East? Yes. I know we view deselection-related defections wryly, but for Roy Cartlidge to leave the party is pretty astonishing. I suspect that if you cut him in half you'd find Labour running through him like a stick of rock. There do seem to be issues around selection in Crewe, with some very odd choices being made ......... That's Progress for you.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 24, 2014 16:15:22 GMT
West End Socialist Independent. Did he go about it all very theatrically? I'll get my coat.
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Post by greenchristian on Jul 24, 2014 21:33:35 GMT
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Post by dazza on Jul 25, 2014 6:16:41 GMT
For some bizarre reason I have always found adjectives like 'Staunch' and 'Stalwart' vaguely funny
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Post by zoe on Jul 25, 2014 8:13:14 GMT
Did he campaign in favour of his wife?
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Post by Richard Allen on Jul 25, 2014 10:54:45 GMT
On the face of it that seems to be pretty pathetic.
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