The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 14, 2013 14:22:27 GMT
Tbf, you did give the impression of disliking the Tories far more prior to May 2010  I wonder if anybody wants to rate the Labour regulars here on the left/right spectrum? |
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Post by marksenior on Jul 14, 2013 15:01:20 GMT
Tbf, you did give the impression of disliking the Tories far more prior to May 2010 I wonder if anybody wants to rate the Labour regulars here on the left/right spectrum? Towards the end of the last Labour Government under Brown Labour were so bad it was impossible to hate them , pity was far more apt . |
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Post by mrhell on Jul 14, 2013 16:07:29 GMT
I once used up my 33 preferences in an internal party election to have the satisfaction of writing '33' against Linda Jack's name. She upset me by urging people not to come to help in Crewe & Nantwich because of a leaflet she didn't like. She hadn't seen it, but someone she knew didn't like it. And that was good enough for her. I once went to 42 or 43 preferences in an election for (I think) the Federal Executive so I could put Charles Anglin last! I've always been instinctively happier with Labour than the Tories (although I've always voted Lib Dem). I can tolerate the mango Greens but not the watermelon ones. I'm a bit more economically liberal than I used in the past but certainly more socially liberal. Now I see politics as more a liberal/conservative battle (on different issues) rather than left/right. In reply to Merseymike, Liberator absolutely hated the Ashdown/Blair dealings in late 90s. My issue then was we were getting nothing out of it. I was more disillusioned then than I am now as at least we're getting some policies through under the coalition. |
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Post by Pimpernal on Jul 14, 2013 16:11:14 GMT
Tbf, you did give the impression of disliking the Tories far more prior to May 2010 I wonder if anybody wants to rate the Labour regulars here on the left/right spectrum? or the centre right / right spectrum  |
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 14, 2013 16:54:42 GMT
I once used up my 33 preferences in an internal party election to have the satisfaction of writing '33' against Linda Jack's name. She upset me by urging people not to come to help in Crewe & Nantwich because of a leaflet she didn't like. She hadn't seen it, but someone she knew didn't like it. And that was good enough for her. I once went to 42 or 43 preferences in an election for (I think) the Federal Executive so I could put Charles Anglin last! Bloody hell, I thought that my preference campaign against a now-MEP was spiteful. What did Charles do to upset you? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 14, 2013 17:10:01 GMT
I should be exactly in the centre , I hate Conservatives and Labour equally . I don't hate Labour or the Conservatives. There are/were people in both parties who I respect/ed and like/d. And - hopefully - vice versa. |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 14, 2013 18:16:19 GMT
Sorry for existing, mrhell and khunanup - I am aligned with Liberal Left. Hardly "bizarre", just holding on to traditional values. To be fair Tim, I was referring to the organisation 'Liberal Left' rather than people in the party who self identify as 'Liberal Left' (though that's a moniker I've heard more from people in the Labour Party who are anything but 'Liberal'). I always think people should be careful to consider that they're holding the 'true flame' of any party's ideology. Mine, Mr Hell's, Iainbhx's and Gwyn's (for example) values are probably just as traditionally Liberal as yours. |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 14, 2013 18:20:17 GMT
Strangely enough, Khunanup has always come across as one of the leftier LibDems on here...... I'm a Radical Liberal Your Worship, trying to put me on a left/right economic spectrum is a little tricky! |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 14, 2013 18:23:34 GMT
Altered to allow for Docs tribalism and the addition of TonyGreaves, cogload, HarryHayfield, and MarkGoodair Tony Greaves, MarkSenior, Crimson King, HarryHayfield, Erland, Mboy, Khanunup, Tricky, Jim, cogload, DocB, Gwin, Iain, MarkGoodair, Is this on economics then? If it includes anything else it's essentially pointless. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 18:41:38 GMT
Altered to allow for Docs tribalism and the addition of TonyGreaves, cogload, HarryHayfield, and MarkGoodair Tony Greaves, MarkSenior, Crimson King, HarryHayfield, Erland, Mboy, Khanunup, Tricky, Jim, cogload, DocB, Gwin, Iain, MarkGoodair, Is this on economics then? If it includes anything else it's essentially pointless. Well as I said above, yes, more or less. It was just for fun though and probably not very accurate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 18:51:01 GMT
Tbf, you did give the impression of disliking the Tories far more prior to May 2010 I wonder if anybody wants to rate the Labour regulars here on the left/right spectrum? I think its a bit harder than for the LDs, as they are more or less all pretty anti-state in social terms (maybe except Crimson King). I also find it harder to get into your minds as the thought patterns are so different. Ill give it a go. Sibboleth, Merseymike, david boothroyd, catholicleft, john07, east anglian lefty, the bishop, ianrobo, ruralradical, trident, To add Philip Davies, kvasir, ABrown, |
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Post by mrhell on Jul 14, 2013 19:02:07 GMT
I once went to 42 or 43 preferences in an election for (I think) the Federal Executive so I could put Charles Anglin last! Bloody hell, I thought that my preference campaign against a now-MEP was spiteful. What did Charles do to upset you? It was in the late 90s and was at the height of concerns about us being too close to Labour (which from our mutual time in Lib Dem Youth and Students he always seemed to be close to). I don't have any problems with him now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 19:02:49 GMT
Tories:
Stepney, Fraser, Thirdchill, Timrollpickering, Swanarcadian, JohnLoony (very hard to place!), ArthurFiggis, Boogie, Armchair, joe, arnieetc,
paulypaul and greatkingrat never seem to give political opinions.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 14, 2013 19:07:02 GMT
Tbf, you did give the impression of disliking the Tories far more prior to May 2010 I wonder if anybody wants to rate the Labour regulars here on the left/right spectrum? I think its a bit harder than for the LDs, as they are more or less all pretty anti-state in social terms (maybe except Crimson King). I also find it harder to get into your minds as the thought patterns are so different. Ill give it a go. Sibboleth, Merseymike, david boothroyd, john07, ruralradical, east anglian lefty, the bishop, ianrobo, catholicleft, trident, To add Philip Davies, kvasir, ABrown, Interesting that you put ianrobo on the rightward side - not everybody would. OTOH I think RR would self-describe as being on the right of the party. As for myself, I was put both on the far left and far right of the Labour spectrum at the old place  Re your Tory list - wot no boogie? |
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Post by mrhell on Jul 14, 2013 19:15:30 GMT
Tbf, you did give the impression of disliking the Tories far more prior to May 2010 I wonder if anybody wants to rate the Labour regulars here on the left/right spectrum? I think its a bit harder than for the LDs, as they are more or less all pretty anti-state in social terms. Think it's more that liberalism is skeptical about authority. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 19:24:42 GMT
I think its a bit harder than for the LDs, as they are more or less all pretty anti-state in social terms (maybe except Crimson King). I also find it harder to get into your minds as the thought patterns are so different. Ill give it a go. Sibboleth, Merseymike, david boothroyd, john07, ruralradical, east anglian lefty, the bishop, ianrobo, catholicleft, trident, To add Philip Davies, kvasir, ABrown, Interesting that you put ianrobo on the rightward side - not everybody would. OTOH I think RR would self-describe as being on the right of the party. As for myself, I was put both on the far left and far right of the Labour spectrum at the old place Re your Tory list - wot no boogie? I meant to divide into left and right of Boogie then forgot the man himself! Ianrobo seems surprisingly sound on more issues than most would think. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 20:19:49 GMT
Are you going to give us lot a go while you're at it? |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 14, 2013 20:23:51 GMT
I don't think Ian would place himself that far to the right of me. trident would, though! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 20:24:48 GMT
Tbf, you did give the impression of disliking the Tories far more prior to May 2010 I wonder if anybody wants to rate the Labour regulars here on the left/right spectrum? I think its a bit harder than for the LDs, as they are more or less all pretty anti-state in social terms (maybe except Crimson King). I also find it harder to get into your minds as the thought patterns are so different. Ill give it a go. Sibboleth, Merseymike, david boothroyd, john07, east anglian lefty, the bishop, ianrobo, ruralradical, catholicleft, trident, To add Philip Davies, kvasir, ABrown, Good to be mentioned in dispatches, but I am surprised to see me put so far to the right. My views are firmly on the left in terms of education, nationalisation, immigration, taxation, defence, Europe, NHS, ethnic minority rights, criminal justice, etc. I suppose I am seen as socially conservative, but that was never seen as a left/right issue in the past. I prefer the word traditional, but can't get too het up about it. When such things were important, I was classed as soft-Left in the old days. I am certainly on the left of the present Labour Party. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 14, 2013 20:27:39 GMT
Are you going to give us lot a go while you're at it? What as a sort of mango to watermelon scale To be honest, most of you come over as fairly sensible types (for Greens) which is probably why most of you are in the SGP. |
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