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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 10, 2013 15:39:11 GMT
Reported that Carol Shaw, Lib Dem, Brent, Brondesbury Park, has returned to the Conservatives, having defected the other way in 2003. She's topped the poll in 2002(Tory)and 2006 and 2010(as a Lib Dem) several hundred votes ahead of the second and third candidates from her party. ??I didn't realise the Tory position on tuition fees was any different to the LD one at present. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 10, 2013 15:39:24 GMT
I posted that but it never appeared on the thread (although is in my 'latest posts by this member').
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 15:46:25 GMT
Reported that Carol Shaw, Lib Dem, Brent, Brondesbury Park, has returned to the Conservatives, having defected the other way in 2003. She's topped the poll in 2002(Tory)and 2006 and 2010(as a Lib Dem) several hundred votes ahead of the second and third candidates from her party. ??I didn't realise the Tory position on tuition fees was any different to the LD one at present. you see some strange defection statements but going to the party that forced the LD's to change policies on one and to use the boundary changes as an excuse, jeez thats a new one. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 13, 2013 8:43:50 GMT
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Post by lancastrian on Jun 13, 2013 8:58:27 GMT
you see some strange defection statements but going to the party that forced the LD's to change policies on one and to use the boundary changes as an excuse, jeez thats a new one. Giving the timing of her previous defection, perhaps she was always a Tory really but wanted to be on the winning side, and now that Teather may well be on the way out she's going back to the Tories. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:52:03 GMT
you see some strange defection statements but going to the party that forced the LD's to change policies on one and to use the boundary changes as an excuse, jeez thats a new one. Giving the timing of her previous defection, perhaps she was always a Tory really but wanted to be on the winning side, and now that Teather may well be on the way out she's going back to the Tories. I think she is in Hampstead and Kilburn parliamentary seat not Teathers. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 13, 2013 13:34:13 GMT
The theory is still applicable though. At the time she originally defected her ward was in Brent East and she appears to have defected just after Sarah Teather won the by-election there. Brondesbury Park is basically a Tory ward
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Post by erlend on Jun 13, 2013 20:15:12 GMT
She defected in the final fortnight of the byelection, I risoed a shed load of leaflets about it. She was a gift horse we couldn't refuse and I suspect made the difference. But even then had a reputation as to being hard work.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 24, 2013 18:22:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 0:10:17 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Jun 25, 2013 1:21:41 GMT
Lord Storey, LibDem former Liverpool City Council Leader, wants the LibDems to stand aside in his favour Er, what makes him think that thousands of potential Lib Dem supporters might be prepared to vote for a petulant little nincompoop like him anyway? |
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Post by Crimson King on Jun 25, 2013 7:06:58 GMT
Given that the thought of coalition with the Lib Dems 'made him vomit' this would be unlikely to be welcome on either side
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Post by erlend on Jun 25, 2013 8:55:33 GMT
I feel sorry for the kid (I doubt he would want my sympathy though). I think that the fact that it ever got near this point reflects poorly on the MP and even on the rest of the local Labour establishment to a lesser extent.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 25, 2013 9:52:54 GMT
Er, what makes him think that thousands of potential Lib Dem supporters might be prepared to vote for a petulant little nincompoop like him anyway? Hatred of labour, especially of that Jewish princessI think it best to stay off terminology like that, personally speaking...... |
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Post by erlend on Jun 25, 2013 10:07:37 GMT
I was tempted to suggest changing it to Islington but when I looked her up on wiki found no reference to that place. I didn't know she was Manny Shinwell's Great Niece before though.
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Post by jdc on Jun 25, 2013 10:26:01 GMT
I feel sorry for the kid (I doubt he would want my sympathy though). I think that the fact that it ever got near this point reflects poorly on the MP and even on the rest of the local Labour establishment to a lesser extent. As I happens I know Luciana a bit and think she's pretty good, but the problem of MPs and their retinue regarding Councillors as cannon-fodder is a problem for all parties to a greater or lesser degree. I don't think it's particularly immature for a Councillor to complain when dressed down by an MP for knocking on doors in their ward without "the approved script". All a bit 1997. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 25, 2013 10:53:34 GMT
Lord Storey, LibDem former Liverpool City Council Leader, wants the LibDems to stand aside in his favour Er, what makes him think that thousands of potential Lib Dem supporters might be prepared to vote for a petulant little nincompoop like him anyway? Glad to hear your opinions on someone you have never met, John. Your description is entirely inaccurate. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 25, 2013 10:54:52 GMT
I feel sorry for the kid (I doubt he would want my sympathy though). I think that the fact that it ever got near this point reflects poorly on the MP and even on the rest of the local Labour establishment to a lesser extent. As I happens I know Luciana a bit and think she's pretty good, but the problem of MPs and their retinue regarding Councillors as cannon-fodder is a problem for all parties to a greater or lesser degree. I don't think it's particularly immature for a Councillor to complain when dressed down by an MP for knocking on doors in their ward without "the approved script". All a bit 1997. I think Luciana is everything wrong with my party. Deselection was invented for people like her Otherwise I concur with all you say. Some of us would happily tell those who try and make us use a script to bog off, and do. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 25, 2013 10:55:53 GMT
Hatred of labour, especially of that Jewish princessI think it best to stay off terminology like that, personally speaking...... Why? She has made her name from her support of the Zionist state. |
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Post by erlend on Jun 25, 2013 11:08:59 GMT
I think if we used terms like Paki Princess we would rightly be dressed down even if their big issue was Kashmir. Quid pro quo.
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