Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 5, 2015 0:24:07 GMT
The first defection was always going to be HIGH PROFILE LABOUR FIGURES JUMPS SHIP IN RESPONSE TO CORBYN NIGHTMARE, whether it was Lord Adonis or an obscure Baron so unknown they don't get a caption on BBC Parliament until the hundredth person asked goes "Ooh, HIM." Adonis was, at a point, recognisible a figure amongst those who gave a hoot about railways and infrastructure. He clearly cares a lot about investing in rail and transport matters. Ex SDP, Ex LibDem, so not exactly a shock to see him move away from Labour for a new post, but as the media need to get in a POST CORBYN SCANDAL, this one seems the first hook to hang whatever thought pieces they can about CRUMBLING LABOUR PARTY LOSES MAJOR FIGURE. I never realised he was a member in the first place. I always assumed he was one of the non-political appointments that happened under Blair and Brown. Why the ANNOYING BLOCK CAPITALS In your text. Are you a COMPLETE LUNATIC or is your SHIFT LOCK MALFUCTIONING. You come across as a DEMENTED IDIOT, Looks to me like the dok is mocking the tabloids. Quite right too...
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Post by mrhell on Oct 5, 2015 0:49:33 GMT
I never realised he was a member in the first place. I always assumed he was one of the non-political appointments that happened under Blair and Brown. Why the ANNOYING BLOCK CAPITALS In your text. Are you a COMPLETE LUNATIC or is your SHIFT LOCK MALFUCTIONING. You come across as a DEMENTED IDIOT, Looks to me like the dok is mocking the tabloids. Quite right too... That was so obvious it shouldn't have needed explaining.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 4:53:23 GMT
The first defection was always going to be HIGH PROFILE LABOUR FIGURES JUMPS SHIP IN RESPONSE TO CORBYN NIGHTMARE, whether it was Lord Adonis or an obscure Baron so unknown they don't get a caption on BBC Parliament until the hundredth person asked goes "Ooh, HIM." Adonis was, at a point, recognisible a figure amongst those who gave a hoot about railways and infrastructure. He clearly cares a lot about investing in rail and transport matters. Ex SDP, Ex LibDem, so not exactly a shock to see him move away from Labour for a new post, but as the media need to get in a POST CORBYN SCANDAL, this one seems the first hook to hang whatever thought pieces they can about CRUMBLING LABOUR PARTY LOSES MAJOR FIGURE. I never realised he was a member in the first place. I always assumed he was one of the non-political appointments that happened under Blair and Brown. Why the ANNOYING BLOCK CAPITALS In your text. Are you a COMPLETE LUNATIC or is your SHIFT LOCK MALFUCTIONING. You come across as a DEMENTED IDIOT, I was using those block capitals to mimic tabloid headlines. You come across as somebody unable to understand the most basic elements of satire. Do keep up, dear, x.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 5, 2015 6:03:42 GMT
With some people, it's hard to tell- they often become something of a self-satire.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 7:17:20 GMT
Andrew Adonis has resigned the Labour whip in the HoL, but remains a Labour Party member. So, not a defection at all.
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sdoerr
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Post by sdoerr on Oct 5, 2015 7:55:30 GMT
Does he call himself /ˈaðonis/, /ˈædənɪs/, or /əˈdəʊnɪs/?
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john07
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Post by john07 on Oct 5, 2015 10:37:39 GMT
I never realised he was a member in the first place. I always assumed he was one of the non-political appointments that happened under Blair and Brown. Why the ANNOYING BLOCK CAPITALS In your text. Are you a COMPLETE LUNATIC or is your SHIFT LOCK MALFUCTIONING. You come across as a DEMENTED IDIOT, Looks to me like the dok is mocking the tabloids. Quite right too... Aye with all the subtlety of Sun editorial.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 11:07:52 GMT
Looks to me like the dok is mocking the tabloids. Quite right too... Aye with all the subtlety of Sun editorial.
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neilm
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Post by neilm on Oct 5, 2015 11:27:09 GMT
Adonis might not be a political giant but he is a former cabinet minister, he served in government for 5 years and his achievements as a Mister of State went far beyond most politicians who held that rank. He is hardly some anonymous former junior minister. And encompasses much of what is wrong with Blairism and Not Labour. Like the invention of academies. I won't miss him. Yes, the thought of bringing able people into government is just terrible, isn't it. He's a breathtaking rightwinger (apparently he even believes in car ownership and a range of supermarkets carrying a choice of products!) and Labour are well shot of him. Forward, comrades!
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john07
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Post by john07 on Oct 5, 2015 11:46:18 GMT
Adonis is a effective technocrat and I can see why Governments of different shades would be keen to have him on board.
I am relieved that he is involved in infrastructure rather then school policy all the same.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 5, 2015 15:40:28 GMT
And encompasses much of what is wrong with Blairism and Not Labour. Like the invention of academies. I won't miss him. Yes, the thought of bringing able people into government is just terrible, isn't it. He's a breathtaking rightwinger (apparently he even believes in car ownership and a range of supermarkets carrying a choice of products!) and Labour are well shot of him. Forward, comrades! He introduced academies, thinks HS2 is a good idea and supports localism measures without prior redistribution. You are very welcome to him.
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john07
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Post by john07 on Oct 5, 2015 16:07:51 GMT
Aye with all the subtlety of Sun editorial. Moi Aussie!
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neilm
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Post by neilm on Oct 5, 2015 16:18:50 GMT
Yes, the thought of bringing able people into government is just terrible, isn't it. He's a breathtaking rightwinger (apparently he even believes in car ownership and a range of supermarkets carrying a choice of products!) and Labour are well shot of him. Forward, comrades! He introduced academies, thinks HS2 is a good idea and supports localism measures without prior redistribution. You are very welcome to him. HS2 is a load of rubbish and I'm disappointed that he thinks his first priority should be transport in London. However, he is a loss to your side (even though he's still a party member).
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 5, 2015 17:18:28 GMT
He introduced academies, thinks HS2 is a good idea and supports localism measures without prior redistribution. You are very welcome to him. HS2 is a load of rubbish and I'm disappointed that he thinks his first priority should be transport in London. However, he is a loss to your side (even though he's still a party member). I really don't think his ideas place us on our side at all. That's the problem
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johnr
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Post by johnr on Oct 6, 2015 5:31:28 GMT
HS2 is a load of rubbish and I'm disappointed that he thinks his first priority should be transport in London. However, he is a loss to your side (even though he's still a party member). I really don't think his ideas place us on our side at all. That's the problem Yes, they do. As we have discussed before, you think anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a raving right wing lunatic who shouldnt be allowed in the Labour Party. Of course, the fact that he is going off to implement Labour Party Policy, doing the same job he would have been doing if we had won the election in May has passed you by.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 6, 2015 10:03:28 GMT
I really don't think his ideas place us on our side at all. That's the problem Yes, they do. As we have discussed before, you think anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a raving right wing lunatic who shouldnt be allowed in the Labour Party. Of course, the fact that he is going off to implement Labour Party Policy, doing the same job he would have been doing if we had won the election in May has passed you by. I don't think that either academies or the sort of localism which doesn't first deal with the imbalance of local government funding has any place in a Labour programme. The business rates reform will simply introduce more competition and less cooperation and further impoverish areas already poor. Hopefully we will see sense re: the white elephant of HS2 And if Osborne finds it so easy to adapt elements of past Labour policy it simply suggests that we haven't escaped the triangulation of the New Labour years - indeed that was all too obvious in Ed Balls' approach
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 10:50:29 GMT
Yes, they do. As we have discussed before, you think anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a raving right wing lunatic who shouldnt be allowed in the Labour Party. Of course, the fact that he is going off to implement Labour Party Policy, doing the same job he would have been doing if we had won the election in May has passed you by. And if Osborne finds it so easy to adapt elements of past Labour policy it simply suggests that we haven't escaped the triangulation of the New Labour years - indeed that was all too obvious in Ed Balls' approach Or the more pragmatic political approach of 'if you see a good idea then pinch it'
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 6, 2015 12:04:02 GMT
Will sit on the Crossbenches.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 6, 2015 12:29:46 GMT
You don't have to be a socialist to think academies are a bit rum, Mike.
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The Bishop
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Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 6, 2015 12:47:42 GMT
Though it maybe helps
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