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Post by marksenior on Sept 25, 2015 12:48:18 GMT
Ken Ferrett , Labour councillor for Nelson ward on Portsmouth UA has resigned from the Party citing fundamental policy differences with the national leadership .
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 25, 2015 13:06:06 GMT
Ken Ferrett , Labour councillor for Nelson ward on Portsmouth UA has resigned from the Party citing fundamental policy differences with the national leadership . Send for Khunanup |
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 25, 2015 14:32:49 GMT
Ken Ferrett , Labour councillor for Nelson ward on Portsmouth UA has resigned from the Party citing fundamental policy differences with the national leadership . Send for KhunanupThanks for the tip-off. After October 8th, with Ken already gone, I expect there to be one Labour councillor in the city. October 8th is their 2016 candidate selection meeting. |
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Post by maxque on Sept 25, 2015 23:06:56 GMT
I suppose the truth is than he would get deselected and his ego wouldn't handle it?
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 25, 2015 23:21:35 GMT
Whatever is going on with this dysfunctional crowd?
Surprised the regional office hasn't intervened
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 26, 2015 0:14:29 GMT
I suppose the truth is than he would get deselected and his ego wouldn't handle it? No, he has been subject to an awful lot of abuse from the Corbynites in the local party and his beliefs vis a vis the Corbyn agenda are heartfelt. He's also had a lot of reflected hostility by being his brother's brother, some of it undeserved, not least because of the controversial decisions his brother has made politically locally. If Corbyn was not leader I think he would have still been deselected due to his ward party's slant and his 'culpability' as they see I in the poor choices Labour have made in the city recently but he would have not left the party and would probably have gone back to standing in hopeless city wards as he did for years before being elected. Once again, interesting times... |
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 26, 2015 0:17:42 GMT
Whatever is going on with this dysfunctional crowd? Surprised the regional office hasn't intervened I believe Labour Region were approached by members of the local party last year to intervene when the council group voted for the Tory minority to run the city. Region did nothing then and presumably will do nothing now unless there are viable reasons to do so. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 26, 2015 10:28:46 GMT
Whatever is going on with this dysfunctional crowd? Surprised the regional office hasn't intervened I believe Labour Region were approached by members of the local party last year to intervene when the council group voted for the Tory minority to run the city. Region did nothing then and presumably will do nothing now unless there are viable reasons to do so. If that's not a viable reason sounds like nothing will be. Good riddance to them. Breathtakingly right wing from what I have read. Probably on their way to the Tories |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 26, 2015 10:41:26 GMT
I believe Labour Region were approached by members of the local party last year to intervene when the council group voted for the Tory minority to run the city. Region did nothing then and presumably will do nothing now unless there are viable reasons to do so. If that's not a viable reason sounds like nothing will be. Good riddance to them. Breathtakingly right wing from what I have read. Probably on their way to the Tories LOL , he and his brother have practically kept the local party alive in the last 10 years and yet buffoons like you think they are neo Tories . |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 26, 2015 10:48:22 GMT
They've done a pretty shit job from the looks of it then. The local Lib Dems may be decent campaigners, but Labour's performance in Portsmouth has still been deeply unimpressive for years.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 26, 2015 11:02:33 GMT
Yes, surely one of our biggest under-performances in recent years anywhere. We actually ran the council not that long ago, you wouldn't guess that now.
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Post by iain on Sept 26, 2015 11:32:33 GMT
They've done a pretty shit job from the looks of it then. The local Lib Dems may be decent campaigners, but Labour's performance in Portsmouth has still been deeply unimpressive for years. Better a shit job than no job at all |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 26, 2015 11:37:08 GMT
Even that is arguably not true all of the time......
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Post by marksenior on Sept 26, 2015 12:54:32 GMT
Without the efforts of the Ferrett brothers Labour would have zero councillors in Portsmouth now . Since they lost control in 2000 , the decline in Labour support in the city has been pretty relentless apart from the wins by the brothers in 2012
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 26, 2015 17:05:36 GMT
If that's not a viable reason sounds like nothing will be. Good riddance to them. Breathtakingly right wing from what I have read. Probably on their way to the Tories LOL , he and his brother have practically kept the local party alive in the last 10 years and yet buffoons like you think they are neo Tories . Just shows how run down some Labour parties became - and why there has been such a huge backlash. If you had any idea of what you are talking about -people like them deliberately blocked activity and party membership declined because of their views. Good riddance |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 26, 2015 17:42:19 GMT
LOL , he and his brother have practically kept the local party alive in the last 10 years and yet buffoons like you think they are neo Tories . Just shows how run down some Labour parties became - and why there has been such a huge backlash. If you had any idea of what you are talking about -people like them deliberately blocked activity and party membership declined because of their views. Good riddance It was people like them who tried to rescue Portsmouth Labour when they took over the leadership of the local party from people like you who had led it from control of the council to just 2 councillors in 2011 . It is people like you who will drive the party even below its 2011 level |
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 26, 2015 18:05:14 GMT
LOL , he and his brother have practically kept the local party alive in the last 10 years and yet buffoons like you think they are neo Tories . Just shows how run down some Labour parties became - and why there has been such a huge backlash. If you had any idea of what you are talking about -people like them deliberately blocked activity and party membership declined because of their views. Good riddance Whatever the shortcomings or otherwise of the Ferrett brothers you can't blame them for the declining membership/activism alone, that has been a group effort born though years of complacency with no plan what to do when the slide became essentially terminal in the latter days of the last Labour government. Which comes to the second point you make, one of the reasons Labour has done so badly since 2010 compared to how they might have done is because they overstretch themselves, fighting wards that were too far out of reach and just missing out in others. No lack of activity, just misplaced. Finally, Portsmouth Labour has always been one of the more right wing local parties for various pretty obvious reasons, especially the activist members, which makes this leftist push rather unprecedented and may result in even less activity going on than before. |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 26, 2015 18:55:54 GMT
I believe Labour Region were approached by members of the local party last year to intervene when the council group voted for the Tory minority to run the city. Region did nothing then and presumably will do nothing now unless there are viable reasons to do so. If that's not a viable reason sounds like nothing will be. Good riddance to them. Breathtakingly right wing from what I have read. Probably on their way to the Tories 'Breathtakingly right wing'! I like the sound of that. How does one qualify for that Mersey? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 22:30:17 GMT
LOL , he and his brother have practically kept the local party alive in the last 10 years and yet buffoons like you think they are neo Tories . Just shows how run down some Labour parties became - and why there has been such a huge backlash. If you had any idea of what you are talking about -people like them deliberately blocked activity and party membership declined because of their views. Good riddance The Branch system is fecked, has been for a long time. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 27, 2015 10:06:54 GMT
Without the efforts of the Ferrett brothers Labour would have zero councillors in Portsmouth now . Since they lost control in 2000 , the decline in Labour support in the city has been pretty relentless apart from the wins by the brothers in 2012 They might get credit for steadying the ship in the late 2000s, but if that's the case then they also get the blame for the much smaller uptick in Portsmouth than anywhere else in the country. A couple of wins in 2012 is not an impressive return. |
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