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Post by The Bishop on Sept 20, 2015 11:26:49 GMT
I'd have thought the Greens might be more her bag (and they are welcome to her tbh)
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 20, 2015 11:48:53 GMT
Who cares where this insignificant and silly and grossly irritating woman goes or why or when?
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 20, 2015 20:57:04 GMT
I'd have thought the Greens might be more her bag (and they are welcome to her tbh) Nah, it's ok, we'll pass... |
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Post by iainbhx on Sept 20, 2015 21:05:09 GMT
I'd have thought the Greens might be more her bag (and they are welcome to her tbh) Respect? Probably a stronger suit on the blood libel. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 20, 2015 21:12:43 GMT
I hope she does. She was treated appallingly by the Zionist leadership of the LDs |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 20, 2015 21:13:59 GMT
I'd have thought the Greens might be more her bag (and they are welcome to her tbh) No - she would be more than welcome. She has been a fantastic supporter of the Palestinian cause |
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Post by thirdchill on Sept 20, 2015 21:53:28 GMT
I hope she does. She was treated appallingly by the Zionist leadership of the LDs No she wasn't, the lib dems were perfectly within their rights to discipline her for some of the stuff she said (which went far beyond a standard pro-palestinian stance). Her comments on the Israelis harvesting organs, for instance was said with zero proof and simply done to try and bolster the anti-israeli cause. Most pro-palestinian lib dems (and no, they are nowhere near zionist) would not have said this stuff. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 20, 2015 21:59:34 GMT
I hope she does. She was treated appallingly by the Zionist leadership of the LDs No she wasn't, the lib dems were perfectly within their rights to discipline her for some of the stuff she said (which went far beyond a standard pro-palestinian stance). Her comments on the Israelis harvesting organs, for instance was said with zero proof and simply done to try and bolster the anti-israeli cause. Most pro-palestinian lib dems (and no, they are nowhere near zionist) would not have said this stuff. She was disciplined for daring to go further than the established slogans of the two state solution which the Zionist settlers have made an impossibility. That being so there is no place for Israel as it stands. It should have never been established in the first place. In my view. Misplaced guilt. |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 20, 2015 21:59:29 GMT
You think carefully, make a decision, change party and then and only then make an announcement if you see it to be necessary or useful. The utter vacuous vanity of issuing trailers of possible future movement is extreme exhibitionistic up-oneself-ness!
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Post by thirdchill on Sept 20, 2015 22:03:05 GMT
No she wasn't, the lib dems were perfectly within their rights to discipline her for some of the stuff she said (which went far beyond a standard pro-palestinian stance). Her comments on the Israelis harvesting organs, for instance was said with zero proof and simply done to try and bolster the anti-israeli cause. Most pro-palestinian lib dems (and no, they are nowhere near zionist) would not have said this stuff. She was disciplined for daring to go further than the established slogans of the two state solution which the Zionist settlers have made an impossibility. That being s there is no place for Israel. It should have never been established in the first place. In my view. Misplaced guilt. We will just have to agree to disagree on this. I come from a different political perspective, and one of the reasons I switched from the lib dems to the conservatives was because of people like her being in the lib dems. I was probably going to change anyway due to certain policy disagreements but people like her made that switch happen quicker. |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 20, 2015 22:26:29 GMT
I remember Jenny Tonge from a long time ago when she was a councillor in Richmond Upon Thames, in fact along with the lovable Tony Arbor she's probably one of the first local politicians I do remember. She always seemed a good councillor and as a long standing local GP always had sensible things to say about the NHS. For some reason in recent years she seems to speak about Israel/Palestine to the exclusion of almost everything else and has developed a habit of saying things which are foolish and reckless at best and don't do the Palestinian cause any good at all. If the old Jenny Tonge had wanted to join the Labour party back in the day that would have been great but the twenty first century version is a liability we can do without. I also don't get the idea of flagging up a period of reflection in which she will be making a decision. It may be honest but it looks downright silly.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 20, 2015 23:13:06 GMT
She was disciplined for daring to go further than the established slogans of the two state solution which the Zionist settlers have made an impossibility. That being s there is no place for Israel. It should have never been established in the first place. In my view. Misplaced guilt. We will just have to agree to disagree on this. I come from a different political perspective, and one of the reasons I switched from the lib dems to the conservatives was because of people like her being in the lib dems. I was probably going to change anyway due to certain policy disagreements but people like her made that switch happen quicker. I understand that - the LibDems are a curious beast anyway. It's understandable that Labour and the Conservatives are broad based parties but it's always mystified me just how many opinions which had nothing at all in common exist within the LDs . In this area they tend to attract mostly people who aren't Labour but that says nothing about what they do believe. I always felt she would have been happier on the left wing of the Labour party. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 1:39:07 GMT
I hope she does. She was treated appallingly by the Zionist leadership of the LDs Bloody hell, Mike. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 21, 2015 12:45:11 GMT
What was it about the Ed Milliband version of Labour that Jenny Tonge didn't like? was it two kitsch? I think it's more about her liking the direction of Jeremy Corbyn. Tom Watson said he would welcome her this morning on Today |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 21, 2015 14:44:46 GMT
What was it about the Ed Milliband version of Labour that Jenny Tonge didn't like? was it two kitsch? Should that be slivokitsch, Kosher or too? |
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Post by Richard Allen on Sept 21, 2015 19:54:41 GMT
I'd have thought the Greens might be more her bag (and they are welcome to her tbh) No - she would be more than welcome. She has been a fantastic supporter of the Palestinian cause On the contrary, she is an utter liability for the Palestinian cause. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 21, 2015 21:54:24 GMT
No - she would be more than welcome. She has been a fantastic supporter of the Palestinian cause On the contrary, she is an utter liability for the Palestinian cause. She is the full Soreen. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 22, 2015 7:49:14 GMT
The Manchester Evening News report that Heywood & Middleton CLP have made a complaint to Labour's NEC about Simon Danczuk.
Elsewhere, apparently there is an online petition to remove him from Labour for (somewhat ironically) rebelling against Corbyn.
Danczuk might well be a pillock but this is nonsense.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 22, 2015 9:52:08 GMT
He has many enemies within the Rochdale MBC district party, even before ideological considerations are taken into account.
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Post by maxque on Sept 22, 2015 9:59:29 GMT
He has many enemies within the Rochdale MBC district party, even before ideological considerations are taken into account. And I doubt the news story from a few days ago will help his standing with party members. |
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